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- April 14, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Hello All! Happy Thursday!
I just read this article about melanoma criteria. I know lots of us here have found our primaries, so hopefully this will be helpful to everyone. The article mentions that ABCD criteria, while the most specific, is not the most sensitive. The study mentioned the Menzies' Method as the most sensitive, which I hadn't heard about.
Here's the link for the study:
http://www.cancernetwork.com/melanoma/dermoscopic-algorithms-lack-reliability-detecting-melanoma
And a link describing the Menzies' Method. It has lots of great pictures, so definitely worth a look!
http://www.dermoscopy.org/consensus/2c.asp
Lauren
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- April 14, 2016 at 4:08 pm
I have never heard of the Menzies' Method either, but after reading about it, it makes a lot of sense!
Thanks for sharing, Lauren 🙂
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:14 pm
See the second link in the original post: http://www.dermoscopy.org/consensus/2c.asp
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:14 pm
See the second link in the original post: http://www.dermoscopy.org/consensus/2c.asp
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:14 pm
See the second link in the original post: http://www.dermoscopy.org/consensus/2c.asp
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- April 14, 2016 at 4:08 pm
I have never heard of the Menzies' Method either, but after reading about it, it makes a lot of sense!
Thanks for sharing, Lauren 🙂
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- April 14, 2016 at 4:08 pm
I have never heard of the Menzies' Method either, but after reading about it, it makes a lot of sense!
Thanks for sharing, Lauren 🙂
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Thanks for posting, very interesting. The Menzies method page also has a lot of great information about lesion features as well.
While reading the first article this one from last month popped into the Recommended Reading box: http://www.cancernetwork.com/melanoma/number-moles-not-always-related-likelihood-melanoma
Especially interesting to those of us with a bunch of moles.
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Thanks for posting, very interesting. The Menzies method page also has a lot of great information about lesion features as well.
While reading the first article this one from last month popped into the Recommended Reading box: http://www.cancernetwork.com/melanoma/number-moles-not-always-related-likelihood-melanoma
Especially interesting to those of us with a bunch of moles.
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Thanks for posting, very interesting. The Menzies method page also has a lot of great information about lesion features as well.
While reading the first article this one from last month popped into the Recommended Reading box: http://www.cancernetwork.com/melanoma/number-moles-not-always-related-likelihood-melanoma
Especially interesting to those of us with a bunch of moles.
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
So the Menzies method (new to me, too) doesn't translate well for "things to watch for". None of the terms are that self explanatory and it is quite complicated. It might be more "sensitive" for melanoma but the ABCDE's are much easier to communicate to the general public. Maybe it is better for clinical evaluation of a lesion, but certainly not for "awareness" type ads.
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
So the Menzies method (new to me, too) doesn't translate well for "things to watch for". None of the terms are that self explanatory and it is quite complicated. It might be more "sensitive" for melanoma but the ABCDE's are much easier to communicate to the general public. Maybe it is better for clinical evaluation of a lesion, but certainly not for "awareness" type ads.
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- April 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
So the Menzies method (new to me, too) doesn't translate well for "things to watch for". None of the terms are that self explanatory and it is quite complicated. It might be more "sensitive" for melanoma but the ABCDE's are much easier to communicate to the general public. Maybe it is better for clinical evaluation of a lesion, but certainly not for "awareness" type ads.
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- April 15, 2016 at 8:32 am
This is interesting post, very informative. However, I feel compelled to post that one of my melanomas had both of the negative features (symmetry of pattern, presense of single colour) and was still melanoma. This is a fantastic link, but I would act on any new or changing lesion – even if the change is (as in my case) simply a darkening of the entire lesion from one shade of brown to another. Also, alot of these features are only distinguishable with a dermatoscope and a trained eye – not the views that the average Joe has at home, looking at lesions with the naked eye.
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- April 15, 2016 at 8:32 am
This is interesting post, very informative. However, I feel compelled to post that one of my melanomas had both of the negative features (symmetry of pattern, presense of single colour) and was still melanoma. This is a fantastic link, but I would act on any new or changing lesion – even if the change is (as in my case) simply a darkening of the entire lesion from one shade of brown to another. Also, alot of these features are only distinguishable with a dermatoscope and a trained eye – not the views that the average Joe has at home, looking at lesions with the naked eye.
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- April 15, 2016 at 8:32 am
This is interesting post, very informative. However, I feel compelled to post that one of my melanomas had both of the negative features (symmetry of pattern, presense of single colour) and was still melanoma. This is a fantastic link, but I would act on any new or changing lesion – even if the change is (as in my case) simply a darkening of the entire lesion from one shade of brown to another. Also, alot of these features are only distinguishable with a dermatoscope and a trained eye – not the views that the average Joe has at home, looking at lesions with the naked eye.
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- April 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm
I agree with everyone’s thoughts here. Definitely not a great method for awareness of the general public. And there are definitely cases that don’t fit the criteria or would need to be seen through the scope. But I’m very glad we’re making progress. The blueish haze that they mentioned in the Menzies’ Method totally described my melanoma, and I hadn’t heard that described elsewhere. Every little bit helps! -
- April 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm
I agree with everyone’s thoughts here. Definitely not a great method for awareness of the general public. And there are definitely cases that don’t fit the criteria or would need to be seen through the scope. But I’m very glad we’re making progress. The blueish haze that they mentioned in the Menzies’ Method totally described my melanoma, and I hadn’t heard that described elsewhere. Every little bit helps! -
- April 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm
I agree with everyone’s thoughts here. Definitely not a great method for awareness of the general public. And there are definitely cases that don’t fit the criteria or would need to be seen through the scope. But I’m very glad we’re making progress. The blueish haze that they mentioned in the Menzies’ Method totally described my melanoma, and I hadn’t heard that described elsewhere. Every little bit helps!
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