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Questions about WLE

Forums General Melanoma Community Questions about WLE

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    hrisi930
    Participant

      Hello everyone!

      I was recently diagnosed with minimal deviation melanoma, stage IA, Clark II, Breslow II (0.79). 

      The mole was removed by a plastic surgeon more than a month ago with elliptical excision, 4mm margins. The pathology report indicated clear margins.

      The oncologists didn't say anything about WLE, they didn't even ask what were the surgical margins.

      Just recently I read that there is a standard in melanoma WLE and that there should be 1cm margins for StageIA.

      I might be overreacting, but all I want is to know that everything was done right.

      The scar itself looks totally normal, however there is some tenderness that slmost feels like my melanoma used to (now I know this might be the result of my obsession that I need WLE).

      So what do you think about that? I will greatly appreciate your comments!

      All the best to all of you!

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        Janner
        Participant

          I agree you should have had a WLE with 1cm margins.  I seriously doubt that any discomfort you feel is related to the melanoma itself, only the WLE.  WLE is precautionary and since you do have 4mm margins, chances are all the melanoma is removed.  1cm are recommended, however, to ensure any rogue cells are removed. 

          As for your discomfort, nerves are cut and skin is removed down to the muscle fascia.  It can take up to a year for those areas to heal.  It's common to have some discomfort after the fact and I wouldn't attribute that to anything other than normal healing.

          Janner
          Participant

            I agree you should have had a WLE with 1cm margins.  I seriously doubt that any discomfort you feel is related to the melanoma itself, only the WLE.  WLE is precautionary and since you do have 4mm margins, chances are all the melanoma is removed.  1cm are recommended, however, to ensure any rogue cells are removed. 

            As for your discomfort, nerves are cut and skin is removed down to the muscle fascia.  It can take up to a year for those areas to heal.  It's common to have some discomfort after the fact and I wouldn't attribute that to anything other than normal healing.

            Janner
            Participant

              I agree you should have had a WLE with 1cm margins.  I seriously doubt that any discomfort you feel is related to the melanoma itself, only the WLE.  WLE is precautionary and since you do have 4mm margins, chances are all the melanoma is removed.  1cm are recommended, however, to ensure any rogue cells are removed. 

              As for your discomfort, nerves are cut and skin is removed down to the muscle fascia.  It can take up to a year for those areas to heal.  It's common to have some discomfort after the fact and I wouldn't attribute that to anything other than normal healing.

              LaurieGayle
              Participant

                My dermatologist says anything over 1.0 on the Breslow scale requires the WLE. I believe that at .79 you had the correct procedure.  

                  jennunicorn
                  Participant

                    Anything over 1.00 gets a sentinel lymph node biopsy. All lesions get WLE, no matter the size of the lesion. The margins vary with the size of the lesion. 

                    jennunicorn
                    Participant

                      Anything over 1.00 gets a sentinel lymph node biopsy. All lesions get WLE, no matter the size of the lesion. The margins vary with the size of the lesion. 

                      jennunicorn
                      Participant

                        Anything over 1.00 gets a sentinel lymph node biopsy. All lesions get WLE, no matter the size of the lesion. The margins vary with the size of the lesion. 

                      LaurieGayle
                      Participant

                        My dermatologist says anything over 1.0 on the Breslow scale requires the WLE. I believe that at .79 you had the correct procedure.  

                        LaurieGayle
                        Participant

                          My dermatologist says anything over 1.0 on the Breslow scale requires the WLE. I believe that at .79 you had the correct procedure.  

                          hrisi930
                          Participant

                            Thank you very much for your replies!

                            It is amazing how this forum can calm you down when you are worrying over something : )

                            What I understand is that there are different opinions about WLE – they are not sure if it reduces the risk of reocurrence but it is still recommended as a precaution. 

                            I feel better now because but still a bit anxious. However, I have an appointment with my surgeon next week and I will discuss this with him to see what he has to say.

                            I think about pushing for the WLE since it can't hurt but I wonder if it will be totally pointless since the melanoma was removed over a month ago … it will be too late, I guess?

                            hrisi930
                            Participant

                              Thank you very much for your replies!

                              It is amazing how this forum can calm you down when you are worrying over something : )

                              What I understand is that there are different opinions about WLE – they are not sure if it reduces the risk of reocurrence but it is still recommended as a precaution. 

                              I feel better now because but still a bit anxious. However, I have an appointment with my surgeon next week and I will discuss this with him to see what he has to say.

                              I think about pushing for the WLE since it can't hurt but I wonder if it will be totally pointless since the melanoma was removed over a month ago … it will be too late, I guess?

                              hrisi930
                              Participant

                                Thank you very much for your replies!

                                It is amazing how this forum can calm you down when you are worrying over something : )

                                What I understand is that there are different opinions about WLE – they are not sure if it reduces the risk of reocurrence but it is still recommended as a precaution. 

                                I feel better now because but still a bit anxious. However, I have an appointment with my surgeon next week and I will discuss this with him to see what he has to say.

                                I think about pushing for the WLE since it can't hurt but I wonder if it will be totally pointless since the melanoma was removed over a month ago … it will be too late, I guess?

                                stars
                                Participant

                                  Hi

                                  At .79 I would definitely get a WLE. I'm amazed it hasn't been offered. 4mm makes no sense to me – the standad is 2mm margin at initial surgical excision (eg, what gets cut out for biopsy), followed by a WLE with 0.5mm margin for stage 0 (in situ), 1cm for stage 1 etc. The fact that it's 1A is good news, but its a reasonable depth. In some clinics, if your mel had one worrying feature like ulceration (which it doesn't, otherwise you'd be 1B), you would come into focus for a possible SLNB, not just a WLE. The  official depth for recommended SLNB is 1mm, but some doctors do them from 0.75mm upwards if the melanoma has aggressive features. A WLE is not pleasant but is a great insurance policy and in fact just straight out gold standard care (1cm margin for 1A). Perhaps get a second opinion because 4mm makes no sense to me, it's not even enough margin for a stage 0 melanoma let alone stage 1. BTW, there's every chance the WLE is totally clear, I wouldn't worry too much about finding anything but it's just standard protocol to get your treatment where it should be.

                                   

                                  stars
                                  Participant

                                    Hi

                                    At .79 I would definitely get a WLE. I'm amazed it hasn't been offered. 4mm makes no sense to me – the standad is 2mm margin at initial surgical excision (eg, what gets cut out for biopsy), followed by a WLE with 0.5mm margin for stage 0 (in situ), 1cm for stage 1 etc. The fact that it's 1A is good news, but its a reasonable depth. In some clinics, if your mel had one worrying feature like ulceration (which it doesn't, otherwise you'd be 1B), you would come into focus for a possible SLNB, not just a WLE. The  official depth for recommended SLNB is 1mm, but some doctors do them from 0.75mm upwards if the melanoma has aggressive features. A WLE is not pleasant but is a great insurance policy and in fact just straight out gold standard care (1cm margin for 1A). Perhaps get a second opinion because 4mm makes no sense to me, it's not even enough margin for a stage 0 melanoma let alone stage 1. BTW, there's every chance the WLE is totally clear, I wouldn't worry too much about finding anything but it's just standard protocol to get your treatment where it should be.

                                     

                                      hrisi930
                                      Participant

                                        Thank you very much for your reply!

                                        I will definitely require a WLE. The thing is that I've been to 3 oncologists and they didn't say anything about WLE nor did they recommend anything further.

                                        One of them even said that the removal of a benign mole might metastize later as a melanoma?! After hearing this I became very frustrated because it is hard enough to be diagnosed with melanoma but not to be able to trust your doctors is overwhelming.

                                        This is why I decided to take things in my own hands. I will go to my plastic surgeon and require WLE with 1cm margins and pay out of my pocket for the procedure. At least I will know that I did everything right.

                                        However, I am a bit concerned about the timing… does anyone know if it is too late to do the WLE after 2 months? 

                                        hrisi930
                                        Participant

                                          Thank you very much for your reply!

                                          I will definitely require a WLE. The thing is that I've been to 3 oncologists and they didn't say anything about WLE nor did they recommend anything further.

                                          One of them even said that the removal of a benign mole might metastize later as a melanoma?! After hearing this I became very frustrated because it is hard enough to be diagnosed with melanoma but not to be able to trust your doctors is overwhelming.

                                          This is why I decided to take things in my own hands. I will go to my plastic surgeon and require WLE with 1cm margins and pay out of my pocket for the procedure. At least I will know that I did everything right.

                                          However, I am a bit concerned about the timing… does anyone know if it is too late to do the WLE after 2 months? 

                                          Janner
                                          Participant

                                            No.  Probably no melanoma cells in the tissue around the lesion but if there is one or two cells, that is what you are trying to remove so they can't attempt to grow or travel further.  Some people may wait 3 months to have the WLE to begin with based on scheduling.  It's not too late.

                                            Janner
                                            Participant

                                              No.  Probably no melanoma cells in the tissue around the lesion but if there is one or two cells, that is what you are trying to remove so they can't attempt to grow or travel further.  Some people may wait 3 months to have the WLE to begin with based on scheduling.  It's not too late.

                                              hrisi930
                                              Participant

                                                Thank you for the information!

                                                Now I know what to do : )

                                                I just hope that my surgeon will do the procedure.

                                                hrisi930
                                                Participant

                                                  Thank you for the information!

                                                  Now I know what to do : )

                                                  I just hope that my surgeon will do the procedure.

                                                  wifeofron
                                                  Participant

                                                    Sorry for the lack of recommended treatment you have received. If I were you I would demand the WLE and you can show the surgeon the melanoma or cancer association recommendations for your cancer. 

                                                    wifeofron
                                                    Participant

                                                      Sorry for the lack of recommended treatment you have received. If I were you I would demand the WLE and you can show the surgeon the melanoma or cancer association recommendations for your cancer. 

                                                      wifeofron
                                                      Participant

                                                        Sorry for the lack of recommended treatment you have received. If I were you I would demand the WLE and you can show the surgeon the melanoma or cancer association recommendations for your cancer. 

                                                        hrisi930
                                                        Participant

                                                          Thank you for the idea!

                                                          I will print the recommendations and show it to him. That should do it!

                                                          hrisi930
                                                          Participant

                                                            Thank you for the idea!

                                                            I will print the recommendations and show it to him. That should do it!

                                                            hrisi930
                                                            Participant

                                                              Thank you for the idea!

                                                              I will print the recommendations and show it to him. That should do it!

                                                              hrisi930
                                                              Participant

                                                                Thank you for the information!

                                                                Now I know what to do : )

                                                                I just hope that my surgeon will do the procedure.

                                                                Janner
                                                                Participant

                                                                  No.  Probably no melanoma cells in the tissue around the lesion but if there is one or two cells, that is what you are trying to remove so they can't attempt to grow or travel further.  Some people may wait 3 months to have the WLE to begin with based on scheduling.  It's not too late.

                                                                  hrisi930
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Thank you very much for your reply!

                                                                    I will definitely require a WLE. The thing is that I've been to 3 oncologists and they didn't say anything about WLE nor did they recommend anything further.

                                                                    One of them even said that the removal of a benign mole might metastize later as a melanoma?! After hearing this I became very frustrated because it is hard enough to be diagnosed with melanoma but not to be able to trust your doctors is overwhelming.

                                                                    This is why I decided to take things in my own hands. I will go to my plastic surgeon and require WLE with 1cm margins and pay out of my pocket for the procedure. At least I will know that I did everything right.

                                                                    However, I am a bit concerned about the timing… does anyone know if it is too late to do the WLE after 2 months? 

                                                                  stars
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Hi

                                                                    At .79 I would definitely get a WLE. I'm amazed it hasn't been offered. 4mm makes no sense to me – the standad is 2mm margin at initial surgical excision (eg, what gets cut out for biopsy), followed by a WLE with 0.5mm margin for stage 0 (in situ), 1cm for stage 1 etc. The fact that it's 1A is good news, but its a reasonable depth. In some clinics, if your mel had one worrying feature like ulceration (which it doesn't, otherwise you'd be 1B), you would come into focus for a possible SLNB, not just a WLE. The  official depth for recommended SLNB is 1mm, but some doctors do them from 0.75mm upwards if the melanoma has aggressive features. A WLE is not pleasant but is a great insurance policy and in fact just straight out gold standard care (1cm margin for 1A). Perhaps get a second opinion because 4mm makes no sense to me, it's not even enough margin for a stage 0 melanoma let alone stage 1. BTW, there's every chance the WLE is totally clear, I wouldn't worry too much about finding anything but it's just standard protocol to get your treatment where it should be.

                                                                     

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