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    ryanbkyle
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      I am a generally healthy 54 year old woman who has been diagnosed with Stage 3A melanoma.  I had the wide excision and the sentinel lobe dissection. One out of three lymph nodes showed a microscopic trace of cancer.  I now have to decide on treatment, and would like advice from those that have gone through this.  My gut is telling me to take one day at a time and see what happens and be monitored by my oncologist — not to do a CLND or the Interferon and IPI treaments.  Any advice would be appreciated?  Thank you!

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        Hukill
        Participant

          If it was me I would rather treat it now when it may be just a few cells moving around inside me rather than wait until those few cells metastisize into something much harder to fight.

          MichelleRHG
          Participant
            I did the CLND in groin. The surgery itself wasn’t bad at all but the drain for 5 weeks was an inconvenience. I have a small amount of edema in that leg. My ankle swells when I travel. Not bad at all. I start ipi tomorrow so can’t comment on that yet. I’m all about getting it out asap and doing everything possible to keep it away. (After my CLND another node in my pelvis had melanoma just a few weeks later so yes, this stuff can,spread quickly . I had 2 surgeries in 10 weeks. Now ALL nodes in groin and pelvis are gone)
            maperny
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              I wish my husband had had the chance of Ipi when he was stage 3 4 years ago with a microscopic amount in sentinel node.  He declined the interferon as results did not show any clear benefit. But Ipi does show response even for stage 4 so tackling at stage 3 sounds a very good idea.

              Not sure any benefit in doing the CLND.  

              Good luck with your decision

              Maria

                Toby0987
                Participant

                  I did a clnd in 2013 after 3b and if they would have had ipi then I would have done ipi and clnd. I'm doing watch and fret and it is unnerving even now 4 yrs later.  "If only" are the saddest words ever spoken-don't mess around with melanoma-go in hit on it

                  Toby0987
                  Participant

                    Go in hot on it not hit

                  SABKLYN
                  Participant

                    The big 3a decision….a lot to wrestle with.  Survivability studies indicate no appreciable difference (I believe) between those that do and those that do not.  Same data I was presented with 5 years ago when it was my turn in the barrel.  I opted to do it because I felt more comfortable being proactive.  My experience with the surgery was largely ok.  I too had the JP bulbs on for longer than I thought would be the case…nearly 6 weeks as I recall.  I also had a post op infection which rewarded me with about an 8 day stay on IV antibiotics.  I was really never in any peril but at the time, it sure did suck!  Afterward, I head virtually zero swelling, although my ankle does swell a little after prolonged periods of sitting…when I'm traveling, I wear compression socks which takes care of that issue.  I am active, I go to the gym often, do lots of cardio without I'll-effects.  If I may offer advise, I would say, do your research, ask your doctor lots of questions, make the choice you're most comfortable with and don't second guess yourself.  Whatever you choose is the right decision for you at that time.  No one has a crystal ball!  Good. Luck!

                    JustJaren
                    Participant

                      HI. I can't beleive I saw this today as I have been wrestling with the decision as well. 

                      Initially I had 2 oncologists tell me "this is standard procedure" but then yesterday i saw a specialist at Emory who stated as others have, that there is no difference in OS between doing the surgery and not doing the surgery. W/out surgery there is a greater risk of node recurrence and the complications can be worse than earlier performed CLND. However, in my case, they found only '3 or 4' cancer cells in the SLN and the specialist said since I am overweight I am at a higher risk of complications and that he is very comfortable in recommending the 'watch and wait' approach. He also stated that he is 100% confident that specialists at Memorial-Sloan and MD Anderson would recommend the same. He cited the DECOG trials as a reference and said that while the MSLT II trial is still too early to give definitive answers, that he did not anticipate much difference in that outcome from the DECOG trial. 

                      I will watch and wait and pray and be as healthy as possible, believing that they removed the cancer with the SLN removal.   🙂

                      I don't know the details on your initial lesion, as that played an integral part of the surgeon's recommendation. 

                      Best wishes to you for the clarity and decision that I KNOW is oh so very hard. Please reach out if you need to talk through your feelings, as I know them all too well.   heart

                        welcome32
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                          My Daughter, 24 years old was diagnosed in late August, 2016.  She had the mole removed, margins clear,  which was  0.9 mm Breslow thickness.The SLN report came back positive, reading that Present as clusters of tumor cells, the largest cluster measuring 0.4 mm in size.  She was set to have the CLND along with starting treatment of Interferon.  We were able to get a second opinion at Memorial-Sloan and they, recommended no interferon and not to go ahead with the CLND, because of complications and her young age.  They leaned more toward the Watch and Wait, with Dermatologist visits every 3 months along with  an ultrasound under her arm where SLN was done.  She will also visit with the Oncologist every 3 months.   She will do CT Pet scans every 6 months for the first 2 to 3 years.  They did give her the option to do ipi treatments, but at this point they are comfortable with wait and see.  It is all very scary, I wish you all the very best………and will continue to pray for everyone here…

                        skousal
                        Participant

                          I am also stage 3a and I had to make these hard decisions. I wanted to do the "watch and wait" yet I decided to have the clnd on 2/8/16 and I'm still recovering with the drain in my groin. The surgery was not as bad as I anticipated and I am healing fairly quickly with no swelling, just some pain with walking as I think I can feel the end of the drain in my leg. While I had the surgery, I don't think I will opt for any adjunct therapy, side effects are horribly scary with the chance of no benefit or real need. I am only 25 and I don't want to create so many health problems from immunological agents unless there is active disease. But it is your choice. I don't know if I helped at all, but good luck!

                            jennunicorn
                            Participant

                              Just have to say that Ipi, the newest adjuvant treatment, does show benefit. The old drug, Interferon, is the one that shows no benefit and would be pointless to put oneself through those yucky side effects. Not everyone who does Ipi gets bad side effects (me being one of them).. side effects are never a given, always something to keep in mind.

                              skousal
                              Participant

                                Jenn,

                                It is great to hear that you don't have side effects. I wouldn't say I have made up my mind 100% yet about avoiding Ipi, as I still have to meet with another oncologist at MDA but I don't know, I just fear that I would not tolerate it well. 

                                jennunicorn
                                Participant

                                  I took into account that I'm young and otherwise healthy, so I figured my body could handle it well. That was over a year ago when I was first diagnosed. I did all 4 of the main doses and 2 maintanence doses.. unfortunately had to switch to Ipi/Nivo combo before my last maintenance dose, but I got through another 4 doses of Ipi with the combo too.. and no major side effects. It's definitely a hard decision and a personal one. The oncologist at MDA will have good advice for you, based on your exact situation, sometimes watch and wait really is better if someone had a very minmal amount in a lymph node and their primary was lower risk. My primary was ulcerated and I had 3 lymph nodes with melanoma, so for me it made more sense to use the big guns on it.

                                oocn
                                Participant

                                  I just wanted to weigh in and provide the outlook of someone who is younger but was in a similar situation facing this really big decision. Firstly, I had an auxuliary neck node dissection of a primary that was .84 mm deep with a mitotic count of 1, with less than .1mm of focally present cells in 1 sentinel node. I immediately went from 1b to 3b. 

                                  There are three reasons I opted for the CLND. #1 – it opened up my avalibility for the clinical trial I am currently enrolled. #2 – I recognized that there could be** more cells located within non-sentinel nodes, even though it was unlikely. Fortunately that was not the case. #3 – being realitvely young I believed that I had a really really great chance at rehabing.

                                  These are all considerations I personally made, it is ultimately a very personal decision and not looking back and wondering "what if I did (xyz)" is crucial to staying on top of this thing even though it's tough. 

                                  My onc really stressed the importance of an "insurance policy". If there was a greater than 50% chance of it coming back statistically, I knew I had to do something. That is not the case for all stage 3 stratifications, so it is really important to think about. 

                                  Currently on keytruda every three weeks – feeling great, just a bit tired every now and then. Keeping a positive mindset all the time!

                                  Sending thoughts and prayers your way. Good luck and God Bless.

                                  ryanbkyle
                                  Participant

                                    Thank you all for your support, comments and advice.  I'm meeting with the oncologist today who will review the treatment options with me.  I'll let you know how it goes. 

                                     

                                      ryanbkyle
                                      Participant

                                        Met with the onc today.  Will not be doing the CLND.  Am doing the IPI treatment and hoping for the best.

                                        jennunicorn
                                        Participant

                                          Wishing you all the best with treatment and hope you remain NED forever 🙂

                                          maperny
                                          Participant

                                            Good luck.  If we could turn back clock four years, my husband would have definitely done just what you are doing.

                                            Maria

                                            ryanbkyle
                                            Participant

                                              Thank you!

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