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Please help me, Newly diagnosed

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    Ohio mom
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      Hello, I am newly diagnosed and I’m so full of anxiety.  I’m not sleeping since I found out last Friday.  I don’t see the onocologist until May 1st and then it’s just a consultation I believe?

      I have a pathology report, but not understanding of what it will entail for my future.  It was done by my dermatologist and he is sending me to an onocologist at the James Center in Columbus Ohio who specializes in melanoma.

      I had a shaved biopsy which was diagnosed of melanoma which surprised my dermatologist.  It was not a mole, just a pinkish red skin patch about the size of a pencil eraser, not raised, itchy, just odd.

      with the shaved biopsy this is my report:

      tissue processed size 0.5 x 4×0 x 0.1cm shave 

      microscopic exam:

      histologic type-Superficial spreading

      Breslow thickness- (MM) 0.5mm

      ulceration-not present

      regression-not present

      mitotic rate-<1 per mm2 (none observed)

      lymphatic/perneural/angio/invasion-not identified

      tumor infiltrating lymphocytes-brisk

      associated melanocytic nevus-not present

      deep margin-involved

      peripheal margin-involved

      stage- at least T1aNxMx

      Note-the melanoma is relatively amelanotic.Multiple cuts were done

      So, I know I have melanoma, I just don’t know what to expect because of not knowing if it has spread to lymph nodes?  Is it a lot deeper than the biopsy?  I’m sorry, I’m crying as I type, I’m just so scared and paralyzed with fear.

      if anyone could help me make sense of this and let me know what may transpire at my appointment with the specialist, I would greatly appreciate it.  It seems like each day waiting is forever, and I don’t know if I’m imagininig my arm hurts and all the dire thoughts.

      Thsnk you for your time, kindness and generosity to help others on a site where the ones who are new can come and be honest.  Only my husband knows of my diagnosis and even then I don’t share my fears.

      Best wishes to all.

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        Bria12lane
        Participant

          Hi There-

          Hearing the word Melanoma really can have a devestating effect and it comes with so many unknowns so your fears are totally founded and natural. That being said- Many of us would throw a party and cry tears of joy at a pathology report like that. Having Melanoma is of course awful not matter the circumstance, but if it truly is 1A as your pathology suggests, that is as close to the best case scenario.

          The extremely low mitotic count, thickness and lack of ulceration are all incredibly promising. I'm not sure where it is located but the fact it is amelonotic just means it doesnt look like a "normal" melanoma but it's not necessarily cause for greater concern. 

          Who is the oncologist you will be seeing at The James? It is very likely they will just want to have a little more taken from around the area to ensure clean margins. Because of the thickness and because there is no ulceration present it is very unlikely you will even need a sentinal node biopsy. It is also likely you will require no further treatment at all. That is my hope for you! Your dermatologist will then probably do very thorough full body skin checks every 3-6 months for the next few years to watch for new Melanomas but the risk of a local reoccurence if very unlikely.

          Best of Luck!

           

            Ohio mom
            Participant

              Thank you❤️

              The melanoma is located on my left anterior distal upper arm.

              My dermatologist stated that even though the Breslow number was low it could still be much deeper and that the Breslow number could change and possibly have spread to lymph nodes or elsewhere?  That’s where my fear comes into play.  Also that because my margins were both involved that this was a concern also.

              I will be seeing Dr. John Harrison Howard.  I wish it were today.  

              Thank you for your words of encouragement,  even in fear, they are so very appreciated.

              mandyjill
              Participant

                I also had an amelanotic tumor on my right shoulder. I was diagnosed almost a year ago.  It was very tiny and I had a wide local excision of the area.  I also had a sentinel lymph node biopsy at the same time.  Unfortunately, there was melanoma found on the sentinel node.  So I ended up having a CLND (complete lymph node dissection) under my right arm.  The good news is there was no melanoma found on any other lymph nodes.  I have been participating in a clincial trial of Opdivo and Yervoy to improve my chances of not having any recurrences.  So far so good.  I will be finished with the Clinical Trial in August.

                 

                Like you, I was very scared at first.  But with knowledge, came calmness.  There is so much that can be done these days for melanoma.

                 

                Joycem
                Participant

                  Hi- (also an Ohio Mom here). I had a very deep amelanotic lesion that also looked like nothing much, so I understand your shock and dismay. Try to harness your natural apprehension and stay busy doing things you love, (Yay for finally spring) and things that are good for you.

                  I did a lot of walking, running, healthy eating, went to concerts during my times waiting for appointments, surgeries and results. People on this board (so full of kindness and wisdom) encouraged me to stay off the web as much as possible- a lot of online info is out of date owing to new immunotherapy treatments etc. (treatments which you most likely won’t need but are great to know they are available if you ever do).

                  Thinking beautiful thoughts is good for your immune system. 

                  Blessings, and prayers for positive outcomes, 

                  Joyce

                   

                  Ohio mom
                  Participant

                    Thank you Joyce!!

                    You speak in beautiful soft wisdom!  Thank you!

                    I also forgot to add my diagnosis:  Superficial spreading malignant melanoma,measuring 0.5mm in depth, not excised.

                    what would this mean?

                    thank u all!!

                     

                     

                    Bria12lane
                    Participant

                      Both of my original biopsies were shave biopsies as well but luckily fairly indicative of the later pathology so I hope the same for you! 

                      Dr. Howard is also my Surgical Oncologist. From my research he is well regarded, confident and very well versed in current research and treatment. After our first appointment my husband did not like him very much but after 2 surgeries, an additional biopsy and numerous complications/appointments we have both come to realize that the man is very good at his job! He also has been very acomodating in working with The Cleveland Clinic. His nurse, Lisa, is also wonderful. She’s maternal but a straight shooter and an advocate for you! During my most recent diagnosis I saw him on a Tuesday and he got me in for my surgery the following Monday! 

                      Ohio State has had its issues with scheduling scans and multiple times I’ve been a bit more pushy than I would have liked to have been but they have normally been able to accommodate my requests- don’t be afraid to speak up! 

                      You will also be assigned to a medical oncologist most likely and if you can request Dr. Kendra or Dr. Shah. I see Dr. Olencki and adore him but he’s retiring soon. 

                      And yes- please stay off the internet!!! Even data that seems recent, normally isn’t. In the last few years, and even months advancements have been made and become available that there is no easily available information out there. 

                      Just last week a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic gave me some information that was presented at a conference the week before and was so contradictory to a few things I had read. Things are constantly changing and everyone is so unique in their specific situation. 

                       

                      Bria12lane
                      Participant

                        Just to clarify- hopefully you will not need a medical oncologist, but they really prefer to have one oversee everything at The James in my experience and follow you for a while after surgery. If this is the case with you those are my recommendations for Medical Oncologists there.

                        Ohio mom
                        Participant

                          Thank you Bri!!  I appreciate any information and recommendations I can get!!

                          Do you think there is a slight chance that Dr Howard would do the SLNB and excision at my first appointment May 1st?  Already waiting the two weeks since the biopsy and then getting the melanoma results a week ago Friday has been terrible.  The anxiety is taking its toll on me, I can hardly sleep or eat.  I try to go on about life, but I’m in such fear.

                          If you don’t mind me asking, are you being seen at both the James and the Cleveland clinic?  How are you doing?!  I feel like I am being so self absorbed since I found out and that is not my nature!  I pray things are going well for you.

                          Kind regards!

                          bjeans
                          Participant

                            "…stay off the internet!!" Yes! Except for here (some beyond amazing forum participants) or to look up great docs. 

                            sdthomas
                            Participant

                              Just a litle over a month ago I was where you are now.  I was diagosed with malignant melanoma (mine is on my right flank near my beltline) where I had a mole that changed and went bad over time.  Unlike you though I had an exisional biopsy with margins about 1cm that came back as clear. As other people have said its all about getting it staged and the greatest influence on that is the Breslow depth. My melanoma was just over 1 mm in depth, a thin melanoma with no ulceration and a low mitotic rate like yours. The prognosis at that point is still very good.  Unfortunately based on the current treatment guidelines and standard of care it was just deep enough to not be classed as In SITU, where the original biopsy would  have been sufficient. So I was referred to a Surgical Onclogist and on April 20th (about 10 days ago had WLE and SNLB) the pathology report just came back negative on the lymph node. I know you are apprehensive, its a hard thing to find out you have cancer and especially one that is dangerous like melanoma. All indications thought are that you are Stage I which has an excellent prognosis. I can imagine that all sorts of things are running though your head and that they are very scary, I know that they were running though mine. But I want you to be positive and not worry too much until you have all the facts. The hard thing is waiting. Line the previous poster wrote they are probably going to suggest that you get at least a WLE with 1cm margins and go from there. If it turns out that your tumor is thinner than about 0.80 mm they are not likely going to recommend SLNB because there is no clinical evidence that supports that survival rates with thin tumors less than 1mm are any better with doing SNLB than without doing it.  You are talking here of having rates that are close to 97% -98% anyway and trying to improve on that with SNLB.

                            stars
                            Participant

                              It is a damn shame that the doctor did a shave biopsy instead of a proper excisional biopsy. The shave has now sliced through the bottom of the melanoma so that you will now never really know the true depth. It's a shame because the depth is THE most important variable. All other indications are of a relatively slow growing melanoma, but without the true depth you are kind of in no man's land as far as diagnosis. Already at 0.5mm, I would be leaning towards a sentinel lymph node biopsy just to be cautious. The melanoma might have been 0.51mm, or it might have been 1.5mm, now you will never really know. There is no use worrying, there is just too many unknowns, but if offered I would accept hte SLNB. This is a time of horrible worry, the only peace of mind that I think you will get at this stage is a clear SLNB. Along with that will be a wide level excision, 1cm or so of skin all around the existing biopsy site – usually with 10 or so stitches and a 9cm or so scar afterwards. That's not a worry, that's an uncomfortable inconvenience. The worry is that hte melanoma is already deep and the chance of spread to lymph node increases with depth. Wishing you lots of strength, I hope your future treatment is speedy and uneventful (as in, all clear) and this all becomes a distant memory soon.

                                Ohio mom
                                Participant

                                  Thank you for your informative and honest reply.

                                  I can’t imagine why they did a shave biopsy either.  The more I read, the more I see it would have been very easy for them to have just excised it there.  I hate to think it’s because the office is so busy and it would have taken more time…..It baffles me since I have already had basal cell carcinoma removed with deeper incisions from the same Dr.

                                  I will request as you suggested a SNLB and go from there.  The waiting is hard and knowing that it wasn’t handled right makes it even harder.

                                  I feel as if melanoma.org has helped me more than my 4 calls that it took to get my pathology report from the Dr emailed to me and to have them answer questions.

                                  Thank You!!

                                  Wishing each of you the best!

                                  majahops
                                  Participant

                                    I agree with the *honest* reply of the previous poster. Would have been nice to have done an excisional, and also agree with insisting on a SLNB. To the Dermatologists credit, it was an amelanotic melanoma, and those are so frequently not at all expected to be melanomas, which is why he probably did a shave in the first place. I'll be cross my fingers for you.

                                    By the way, Dr Howard is a SURGICAL Oncologist, which just means a surgeon who removes tumors. In your case, who will remove your melanoma. It is he that you will want to ask for a SLNB, etc. You are not scheduled with a Medical Oncologist (chemo/immunotherapy doctor), and I hope you never will be.

                                    Ohio mom
                                    Participant

                                      Thank you for the clarification.  I am new to this and I truly never want to upset or offend anyone.  I mean that.  

                                      I appreciate the opportunity to come and ask questions or even say things in fear that might seem daff or offensive, but that is not purpose.

                                      i will certainly talk to him about the SLNB.  thank you.

                                      majahops
                                      Participant

                                        Offend? You definitely did not offend anyone! I was just trying to reassure you that you haven't been deemed to require a medical oncologist yet, and that you are seeing a surgical oncologist. The terminology can be confusing and even somewhat misleading. No you haven't offended anyone, all of our hearts and very best wishes are with you!!!

                                        Joycem
                                        Participant

                                          I think when it is amelanotic no one is thinking of melanoma (I certainly wasn’t ) and shaves happen a lot. My lesion was pretty much bisected and actually grew back to nearly its original size before my WLE in a couple weeks which was pretty horrifying.. yet my SNB was clear. Even if they had done excisional biopsy they might be going back for wider margins once they found it was melanoma. 

                                          If they had done excisional and it was benign, we might have been vexed by our larger scar or longer healing time, higher cost. 

                                        Bubbles
                                        Participant

                                          Hi Ohio Mom,

                                          Sorry you are dealing with all this.  A melanoma diagnosis is upsetting enough on a personal level, but even more so when you think about your kids, huh?  Mine were 10 and 12 when I was diagnosed and I think worry about them was harder than anything else I dealt with.

                                          I am sorry you had a shave biopsy…but you can certainly get good care from here out.  A SLNB and wide excision seem to be the first things you need to talk to your surgeon about.  The SLNB, will let you know if there has been any transmission of melanoma to the lymph nodes or not.  When it happens to you, you want it taken care of yesterday!!!  I know I did.  However, the schedule you are on sounds very reasonable and you will have answers soon.  Once you know how that turns out…ask more questions!!  There are amazing peeps with great information on this board.  I wish you my best.  Celeste

                                            Ohio mom
                                            Participant

                                              Thank you each one of you!  I am overwhelmed by the kindness and yes…patience you have shown and given  me.  I know I am redundant, fearful, and asking what only the good Lord knows the answer to at this very moment.  I hope and pray that the Dr will do the SNLB and exicision at my appointment this Tuesday, even if it’s not standard.  I’m praying it is a strong possibility.

                                              And Celeste, your right, my kids are truly one of my biggest concerns. I had my daughter at 43, so she just turned nine.  She is a competitive Irish dancer.  My son is 17 and does competitive bass fishing tournaments and plays an awesome electric guitar.  They are great kids and since I was told early on I couldn’t have kids, they are my greatest gifts!  I’m truly blessed.

                                              again, thank you to this wonderful site and I pray for each one of you, for healing, discernment for the doctors and for a future free of cancer!!

                                               

                                               

                                              stars
                                              Participant

                                                Hey we all went through this phase in the early days… a time of fear and uncertainty. You keep us posted on what's going on or just if you want reassurance or a vent, and we'll keep you in our prayers, too. Once that WLE and (hopefully) SLNB are done, you will be in place of certainty and hopefully one free from worry for the foreseeable future. Hang in there!

                                                Ohio mom
                                                Participant

                                                  Thank you, this means more to me than you know!!

                                                   

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