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Mark_DC.
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- June 5, 2019 at 5:27 pm
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- June 6, 2019 at 7:49 am
I really need to control myself and never read your posts again. They frustrate me. Better yet, maybe you could stay off this forum. Just a thought. Sigh.-
- June 6, 2019 at 4:26 pm
An old myth killed President Washington that blood letting was healthy back then the same as sunscreen prevents melanoma today. Both are false.https://www.google.com/search?q=President+Washington+that+blood+letting&rlz=1C1CHWL_enUS772US772&oq=President+Washington+that+blood+letting&aqs=chrome..69i57.1580j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Melanoma has climbed since sunscreens were introduced
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- June 6, 2019 at 5:05 pm
Guess we all just have to keep giving it the old “college try”, Mary!! So…for any folks new to the forum and have questions about sunscreen….YES!!!! Anything we put on our skin can be absorbed through our skin! NOT NEWS! We have administered medications that way for years and years. Sometimes that’s how we want to administer them. We can use powders, creams, ointments, patches, etc. Sometimes we want them for local effect only….like neosporin on a cut or hydrocortisone on a rash. In those cases we have to make sure that we DON’T get too much absorbed systemically. That’s why your doc will tell you not to put on cortisone preparations too often, in too strong a formulation, or in a sensitive area like your face. Alternatively, there are some meds placed on the skin in order to get systemic effects – ADD meds, help with nicotine addiction, heart meds, etc. So………… with sunscreen we don’t really want to absorb the meds/chemicals it contains…we just want the protection from the sun’s harmful rays.
In case you are confused about this whole topic, here is a link to an article that covers recent discoveries pretty well: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/health/sunscreen-bloodstream-fda-study/index.html
Within the article it states:
“In an editorial accompanying the new study, former FDA Chairman Dr. Robert Califf assured readers that just because the research found chemical levels “well above the FDA guideline does not mean these ingredients are unsafe.” The Personal Care Products Council, the national trade council for sunscreen, cosmetic and personal care products, agreed in a statement.
“The presence of sunscreens in plasma after maximal use does not necessarily lead to safety issues,” said Alex Kowcz, chief scientist for the council.
“It’s important for consumers to know that for the purpose of this study, sunscreens were applied to 75% of the body, four times per day for four days — which is twice the amount that would be applied in what the scientific community considers real-world conditions,” Kowcz said. The council was concerned, she said, that the FDA’s study might confuse consumers and discourage the use of sunscreen.”Well, there you go! Some folks have gotten confused about what the study means!!!
Further, the article notes, “So, should you stop using sunscreen? Absolutely not, experts say. “Studies need to be performed to evaluate this finding and determine whether there are true medical implications to absorption of certain ingredients,” said Yale School of Medicine dermatologist Dr. David Leffell, a spokesman for the American Academy of Dermatology. He added that in the meantime, people should “continue to be aggressive about sun protection.”
Bottom line ~ if you want to protect yourself and the planet…
1. Avoid sunscreens that contain oxybenzone and octinoxate. The former may cause adverse effects in humans and the later harms our water ecosystems. Lots of companies have banned the use of these chemicals in sunscreens already.
2. Use a mineral sunscreen containing titanium dioxide and zinc oxide instead.
3. Avoid being outside between 10 and 2 when the sun’s rays are the strongest.
4. Wear hats, use umbrellas, and wear protective clothing when you can.
5. DO NOT use tanning beds. EVER. JUST DON’T!!! And help pass legislation that makes it illegal for children to use them.
6. Be aware. The sun’s rays have been PROVEN to facilitate the development of melanoma. Not in every human. Not in every melanoma sufferer. But, it has. Been PROVEN. Not a question. So….protect yourself and those you love.celeste
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- June 10, 2019 at 12:08 am
I use physical barriers a lot….long sleeves, hats, umbrellas, shade. But this list might be helpful: https://sciencebecomesher.com/21-oxybenzone-and-octinoxate-free-sunscreens/
I like the neutrogena and la roche posay products listed. I’m not saying that they are any better than the others. I just know they don’t irritate my skin. Hope you are well and this helps. c -
- June 10, 2019 at 1:32 am
Hi Celsete – I do the same, my folding hat goes with me evrywhere and i picked up some uvf50 clothing (but am I overdoing it?)
I try to keep out of the sun too esp from 10-2 in summer but its hard to wake up really early to go cycliing
Thank you for the list
mark
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- June 7, 2019 at 11:22 am
There’s a difference between apparent correlation and cause and effect. 20 some years ago when I was a new Mom there were articles about a study that the use of night lights in a baby’s room increased the risk of nearsightedness. There was a correlation but it wasn’t cause and effects. When Scrutinized it was found that the stronger correlation was the use of nightlights in a baby’s room by near sighted parents. When they removed the nearsighted parents from the data , there was no correlation to nightlight use.What else increased in the timeframe of sunscreen use? Tanning beds come to mind. There’s a known correlation of tanning beds to melanoma. Also, the ‘tan is beautiful’ is a relatively modern trend.
The CDC study and the JAMA article both stated that more study was needed to determine if the levels measured were harmful or carcinogenic. The makers of that video either didn’t read these resources or just extracted what worked for them. That’s lousy science.
I’ve already responded to you about the vitamin D hype.
Perhaps you should read more articles on scientific method and statistics.
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- June 7, 2019 at 3:01 pm
That is very good advice Lucy, but the thought of Gene Gene the alternative medicine dancing machine, would ever read an actual science article not written by clowns like Ty Bollinger is never going to happen!!!! I think the FDA or MRF needs to put a warning label on all of Gene’s posts!!! -
- June 8, 2019 at 12:08 am
FDA ie, the Fraud and Death Association really ED? Why would anybody think that you are an expert about anything ??? He still doesn’t know that fungi can cause cancer…What is Aflatoxin?
Aflatoxin is a cancer-causing poison produced by certain fungi in or on foods and feeds, especially in field corn and peanuts. They are probably the best known and most intensively researched mycotoxins in the world. Aflatoxins have been associated with various diseases, such as aflatoxicosis in livestock, domestic animals, and humans throughout the world. Many countries try to limit exposure to aflatoxin by regulating and monitoring its presence on commodities intended for use as food and feed. The prevention of aflatoxin is one of the most challenging toxicology issues of present time.
https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/a87cdc2c-6ddd-49f0-bd1f-393086742e68/Molds_on_Food.pdf?MOD=AJPERES REAL SCIENCE ED!!!
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