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Tina D.
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- August 31, 2013 at 7:13 am
Hi,
After nine months of regular three-month check ups, my mum's doctor told her she no longer requires these appointments. To me it seems too early to stop, but I may be being an overprotective daughter. Please tell me if I am.
Here's her story.
Hi,
After nine months of regular three-month check ups, my mum's doctor told her she no longer requires these appointments. To me it seems too early to stop, but I may be being an overprotective daughter. Please tell me if I am.
Here's her story.
Approximately 12 months ago she had a nodular melanoma removed from the middle of her back. The nodular melanoma was more than 4mm thick (it was so thick due to being misdiagnosed as a sebaceous wart when she first went to get it checked out) and not ulcerated. Very soon after the melanoma diagnosis came through she had the surrounding tissue also removed. There was talk at this time of also performing a sentinel lymph node biopsy. However, due to the location of the melanoma (right in the middle of her back) the hospital decided not to do this as they said it was too hard to accurately predict the nearest lymph node and it could be possible that a number of nodes in different locations could all light up and if that happened they would have to biposy them all which we were told can be dangerous. Instead, a CT scan was done which came back all clear. The removed tissue was also tested and came back all clear.
For the following six months she had hospital appointments every three months where they physically examined her lymph nodes and found nothing concerning.
At her nine month appointment after having the melanoma removed she had a PET scan.
The PET scan showed seven very tiny spots on her liver. As the spots were very very small, the doctors didn't seem concerned but due to her history of melanoma, they wanted to perform an ultrasound on her liver one month later to make sure nothing had grown/changed. She had the ultrasound and the spots were still tiny.
The doctor then told mum she no longer needed to have scans or check ups any more.
It's been approximately three months since the ultrasound.
Does this timing seem right? Should they still be monitoring those liver spots? Or should she be still getting regular check ups or scans?
Thanks
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- August 31, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Is she being seen by a melanoma specialist? I would get her in for an appointment. Get copies of all her records, scans and test results and keep them. If you ever need to see another doctor you will have a copy of what was found and what was done.
You don't mention your mothers age.
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- August 31, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Is she being seen by a melanoma specialist? I would get her in for an appointment. Get copies of all her records, scans and test results and keep them. If you ever need to see another doctor you will have a copy of what was found and what was done.
You don't mention your mothers age.
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- August 31, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Is she being seen by a melanoma specialist? I would get her in for an appointment. Get copies of all her records, scans and test results and keep them. If you ever need to see another doctor you will have a copy of what was found and what was done.
You don't mention your mothers age.
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- August 31, 2013 at 8:45 pm
It sounds like your mother had something similiar to me. I had nodular melanoma removed from my upper right back (near the middle of the back). It was 4.5mm w/ulceration. They did perform a sentinel lymph node biopsy and it came back positive for melanoma. Brain MRI and CT/PET scan was clear at the time. They removed the rest of my lymph nodes and all were clear. Stage 3 at the time. I tried to get in a clinical trial and couldn't. 3 months later I did have nodules show up on my lungs. VATS procedure confirmed melanoma. Tried for another clinical trial and coudln't qualify becuase everything went away on their own!
Decided on watch and wait. I went 1 year 2 months with clean scans before a met appeared in my small intestine. The point of this is – I think 9 months is too short of time to stop watching and checking. Did htey want to move her to a 6 month schedule? Not to scare you, but melanoma is tricky and having doctors keep a close eye on you is a smart thing to do.
Best of luck!!
Erin
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- August 31, 2013 at 8:45 pm
It sounds like your mother had something similiar to me. I had nodular melanoma removed from my upper right back (near the middle of the back). It was 4.5mm w/ulceration. They did perform a sentinel lymph node biopsy and it came back positive for melanoma. Brain MRI and CT/PET scan was clear at the time. They removed the rest of my lymph nodes and all were clear. Stage 3 at the time. I tried to get in a clinical trial and couldn't. 3 months later I did have nodules show up on my lungs. VATS procedure confirmed melanoma. Tried for another clinical trial and coudln't qualify becuase everything went away on their own!
Decided on watch and wait. I went 1 year 2 months with clean scans before a met appeared in my small intestine. The point of this is – I think 9 months is too short of time to stop watching and checking. Did htey want to move her to a 6 month schedule? Not to scare you, but melanoma is tricky and having doctors keep a close eye on you is a smart thing to do.
Best of luck!!
Erin
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- August 31, 2013 at 8:45 pm
It sounds like your mother had something similiar to me. I had nodular melanoma removed from my upper right back (near the middle of the back). It was 4.5mm w/ulceration. They did perform a sentinel lymph node biopsy and it came back positive for melanoma. Brain MRI and CT/PET scan was clear at the time. They removed the rest of my lymph nodes and all were clear. Stage 3 at the time. I tried to get in a clinical trial and couldn't. 3 months later I did have nodules show up on my lungs. VATS procedure confirmed melanoma. Tried for another clinical trial and coudln't qualify becuase everything went away on their own!
Decided on watch and wait. I went 1 year 2 months with clean scans before a met appeared in my small intestine. The point of this is – I think 9 months is too short of time to stop watching and checking. Did htey want to move her to a 6 month schedule? Not to scare you, but melanoma is tricky and having doctors keep a close eye on you is a smart thing to do.
Best of luck!!
Erin
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- August 31, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Seems to be to early to stop watching and waiting for one that deep. I
would expect that they would do CT's of the Neck through at least the lungs for a yeaar or two. certinly not over 6 months apart. -
- August 31, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Seems to be to early to stop watching and waiting for one that deep. I
would expect that they would do CT's of the Neck through at least the lungs for a yeaar or two. certinly not over 6 months apart. -
- August 31, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Seems to be to early to stop watching and waiting for one that deep. I
would expect that they would do CT's of the Neck through at least the lungs for a yeaar or two. certinly not over 6 months apart. -
- September 1, 2013 at 1:50 am
Your mom and I (and Erin) have almost the same history. I, too, was diagnosed late (10/10) because the primary on left upper back was nodular and without color at 4.35 mm, mitotic rate 9+, one sentinel node positive, clear PET and CT, so stage IIIa. I chose watch and wait with scans every 6 months. The next scans read all clear, but in actuality, there were both an intransit axillary met and a lung met growing, too small to be seen. Because I found the intransit met, a re-staging PET was done 3 months later instead of 6 months, and the lung met was found. That was removed by VATS in November 2012, and I have been NED since, with scans every 3 months. When I get to a year NED, then scans go back to every 6 months. The scanning schedule was determined by Dr. Jedd Wolchok at Sloan-Kettering – quite the melanoma expert and a wonderful man – I trust him implicitly! So…I agree with Jerry and Erin – every 6 months at least.
I'll be thinking of your mom. Please keep us posted!
Lear
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- September 1, 2013 at 3:42 am
With all due respect, you didn't recieve the standard of care.
1. A sentinel node biopsy is not too dangerous unless there are other complicating factors, and yes several nodes may light up. ALL those nodes are removed and examined. If the patient is otherwise healthy, operating on several nodal basins is not risky at all compared to not diagnosing stage III disease. Any complications are usually minor. Sounds to me from what you have said here that they weren't comfortable using the proceedure at all.
2. With that deep of a lesion she is at high risk for recurrance or metastasis. 9 months follow up is ludicrious! With my initial stage 2A diagnosis of a 2.06mm superficial spreading mel AND a negative SNB, I had 3 month checks for the first 2 years, then 4 months for year 3, and then every 6 months thereafter. I had annual bloodwork and a chest x-ray.
8 years later I was diagnosed with stage IV disease! An x-ray for other reasons was done which diagnosed my lung tumor. I also had a small tumor in my chest wall muscle diagnosed by a follow-up PET/CT.
After the first 3 years I moved home and didn't follow up with an oncologist. That mistake almost cost me my life. In 2010 I underwent VATS lung wedge resection followed by HD-IL2. I was and still am a complete responder – 3 years out NED.
Please get a second opinion from a melanoma center. From what you describe as far as lack of diagnosis (she is at risk for being stage III and not knowing it because it was never followed up on). Microscopic disease doesn't show up on scans or bloodwork.
In light of no SNB and the depth of her tumor, I would very cautiously err on some sort of follow up for at least the next 5 years. The kinds of scans to be determined based on risk / benefit and the fact she wasn't fully staged.
IMHO
Glad you found this site, you have every reason to question her care and lack of follow up.
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- September 1, 2013 at 3:42 am
With all due respect, you didn't recieve the standard of care.
1. A sentinel node biopsy is not too dangerous unless there are other complicating factors, and yes several nodes may light up. ALL those nodes are removed and examined. If the patient is otherwise healthy, operating on several nodal basins is not risky at all compared to not diagnosing stage III disease. Any complications are usually minor. Sounds to me from what you have said here that they weren't comfortable using the proceedure at all.
2. With that deep of a lesion she is at high risk for recurrance or metastasis. 9 months follow up is ludicrious! With my initial stage 2A diagnosis of a 2.06mm superficial spreading mel AND a negative SNB, I had 3 month checks for the first 2 years, then 4 months for year 3, and then every 6 months thereafter. I had annual bloodwork and a chest x-ray.
8 years later I was diagnosed with stage IV disease! An x-ray for other reasons was done which diagnosed my lung tumor. I also had a small tumor in my chest wall muscle diagnosed by a follow-up PET/CT.
After the first 3 years I moved home and didn't follow up with an oncologist. That mistake almost cost me my life. In 2010 I underwent VATS lung wedge resection followed by HD-IL2. I was and still am a complete responder – 3 years out NED.
Please get a second opinion from a melanoma center. From what you describe as far as lack of diagnosis (she is at risk for being stage III and not knowing it because it was never followed up on). Microscopic disease doesn't show up on scans or bloodwork.
In light of no SNB and the depth of her tumor, I would very cautiously err on some sort of follow up for at least the next 5 years. The kinds of scans to be determined based on risk / benefit and the fact she wasn't fully staged.
IMHO
Glad you found this site, you have every reason to question her care and lack of follow up.
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- September 1, 2013 at 3:42 am
With all due respect, you didn't recieve the standard of care.
1. A sentinel node biopsy is not too dangerous unless there are other complicating factors, and yes several nodes may light up. ALL those nodes are removed and examined. If the patient is otherwise healthy, operating on several nodal basins is not risky at all compared to not diagnosing stage III disease. Any complications are usually minor. Sounds to me from what you have said here that they weren't comfortable using the proceedure at all.
2. With that deep of a lesion she is at high risk for recurrance or metastasis. 9 months follow up is ludicrious! With my initial stage 2A diagnosis of a 2.06mm superficial spreading mel AND a negative SNB, I had 3 month checks for the first 2 years, then 4 months for year 3, and then every 6 months thereafter. I had annual bloodwork and a chest x-ray.
8 years later I was diagnosed with stage IV disease! An x-ray for other reasons was done which diagnosed my lung tumor. I also had a small tumor in my chest wall muscle diagnosed by a follow-up PET/CT.
After the first 3 years I moved home and didn't follow up with an oncologist. That mistake almost cost me my life. In 2010 I underwent VATS lung wedge resection followed by HD-IL2. I was and still am a complete responder – 3 years out NED.
Please get a second opinion from a melanoma center. From what you describe as far as lack of diagnosis (she is at risk for being stage III and not knowing it because it was never followed up on). Microscopic disease doesn't show up on scans or bloodwork.
In light of no SNB and the depth of her tumor, I would very cautiously err on some sort of follow up for at least the next 5 years. The kinds of scans to be determined based on risk / benefit and the fact she wasn't fully staged.
IMHO
Glad you found this site, you have every reason to question her care and lack of follow up.
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- September 5, 2013 at 11:13 am
I have to agree with you that this seems quite a bit to soon to stop follow up appts. I would want to be having appts every 3-4 months for a while, and especially with a question about having spots in her liver. It just seems like she should be followed more closely. Is your Dr a mel specialist?
I do not think you are being an overprotective daughter at all!
Tina
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- September 5, 2013 at 11:13 am
I have to agree with you that this seems quite a bit to soon to stop follow up appts. I would want to be having appts every 3-4 months for a while, and especially with a question about having spots in her liver. It just seems like she should be followed more closely. Is your Dr a mel specialist?
I do not think you are being an overprotective daughter at all!
Tina
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- September 5, 2013 at 11:13 am
I have to agree with you that this seems quite a bit to soon to stop follow up appts. I would want to be having appts every 3-4 months for a while, and especially with a question about having spots in her liver. It just seems like she should be followed more closely. Is your Dr a mel specialist?
I do not think you are being an overprotective daughter at all!
Tina
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- September 1, 2013 at 1:50 am
Your mom and I (and Erin) have almost the same history. I, too, was diagnosed late (10/10) because the primary on left upper back was nodular and without color at 4.35 mm, mitotic rate 9+, one sentinel node positive, clear PET and CT, so stage IIIa. I chose watch and wait with scans every 6 months. The next scans read all clear, but in actuality, there were both an intransit axillary met and a lung met growing, too small to be seen. Because I found the intransit met, a re-staging PET was done 3 months later instead of 6 months, and the lung met was found. That was removed by VATS in November 2012, and I have been NED since, with scans every 3 months. When I get to a year NED, then scans go back to every 6 months. The scanning schedule was determined by Dr. Jedd Wolchok at Sloan-Kettering – quite the melanoma expert and a wonderful man – I trust him implicitly! So…I agree with Jerry and Erin – every 6 months at least.
I'll be thinking of your mom. Please keep us posted!
Lear
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- September 1, 2013 at 1:50 am
Your mom and I (and Erin) have almost the same history. I, too, was diagnosed late (10/10) because the primary on left upper back was nodular and without color at 4.35 mm, mitotic rate 9+, one sentinel node positive, clear PET and CT, so stage IIIa. I chose watch and wait with scans every 6 months. The next scans read all clear, but in actuality, there were both an intransit axillary met and a lung met growing, too small to be seen. Because I found the intransit met, a re-staging PET was done 3 months later instead of 6 months, and the lung met was found. That was removed by VATS in November 2012, and I have been NED since, with scans every 3 months. When I get to a year NED, then scans go back to every 6 months. The scanning schedule was determined by Dr. Jedd Wolchok at Sloan-Kettering – quite the melanoma expert and a wonderful man – I trust him implicitly! So…I agree with Jerry and Erin – every 6 months at least.
I'll be thinking of your mom. Please keep us posted!
Lear
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