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Daughter diagnosed 2mm?

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    shep
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      My daughter's biopsy came back as melanoma 1/22/13.  Her dermatologist told her it was 2mm deep but had her schedule a surgery to remove more with a surgeon. This procedure is to take place 2/7/13 along with a radioactive 'tracer(?)' test, I guess, to find out if it has metastized? Did the dermatologist ask her to see a surgeon because it could be deeper, or is this just a normal practice? Her appointment today with surgeon left us with more questions. He will be taking a 'diamond' tissue removal instead of 'circular'.

      My daughter's biopsy came back as melanoma 1/22/13.  Her dermatologist told her it was 2mm deep but had her schedule a surgery to remove more with a surgeon. This procedure is to take place 2/7/13 along with a radioactive 'tracer(?)' test, I guess, to find out if it has metastized? Did the dermatologist ask her to see a surgeon because it could be deeper, or is this just a normal practice? Her appointment today with surgeon left us with more questions. He will be taking a 'diamond' tissue removal instead of 'circular'. This has no meaning to us, and she has not been 'up' to asking questions yet… thanks for any help!!

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        Janner
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          The Sentinel Node biopsy is where they use a radioactive tracer to trace the lymph drainage path from the primary lesion.  This is standard protocol in lesions deeper than 1mm.  The purpose is to see if any melanoma cells have left the primary lesion and followed the lymph vessels to the first lymph node (sentinel node) in the drainage path. 

          After that is complete (and it the same setting), they then remove additional tissue.  This also is standard protocol.  WLE – wide local excision.  In lesions 2mm and deeper, then take 2cm margins.  This means there will be a sizeable amount of tissue removed.  The "diamond" removal is basically just a technique to close the skin.  If you take 2cm on all sides of a lesion, you can't just pull the skin together to close it.  So there are plastic surgery techniques used to close the skin and minimize the tissue taken if possible.  The purpose of this is to remove any cells that might remain behind and any that might be thinking of "traveling" elsewhere.

          I understand that everything is a bunch of medical jargon at this point, but it sounds like your daughter is being treated with standard protocols.  If possible, it would be nice to see a melanoma specialist. 

          One thing I would recommend is getting a copy of the pathology report.  It would be nice to know if the deep margin on the 2mm lesion was involved or clear.  Basically, did they leave any depth behind?  Since depth is the most telling prognostic factor, it is helpful to know if they got the complete depth.  The pathology report would tell you that.

          The next step is the surgery and to find out whether or not the melanoma has spread.  You really can't do anything else until you know those results.

          Feel free to ask any additional questions you have here.

          Best wishes,

          Janner

          Janner
          Participant

            The Sentinel Node biopsy is where they use a radioactive tracer to trace the lymph drainage path from the primary lesion.  This is standard protocol in lesions deeper than 1mm.  The purpose is to see if any melanoma cells have left the primary lesion and followed the lymph vessels to the first lymph node (sentinel node) in the drainage path. 

            After that is complete (and it the same setting), they then remove additional tissue.  This also is standard protocol.  WLE – wide local excision.  In lesions 2mm and deeper, then take 2cm margins.  This means there will be a sizeable amount of tissue removed.  The "diamond" removal is basically just a technique to close the skin.  If you take 2cm on all sides of a lesion, you can't just pull the skin together to close it.  So there are plastic surgery techniques used to close the skin and minimize the tissue taken if possible.  The purpose of this is to remove any cells that might remain behind and any that might be thinking of "traveling" elsewhere.

            I understand that everything is a bunch of medical jargon at this point, but it sounds like your daughter is being treated with standard protocols.  If possible, it would be nice to see a melanoma specialist. 

            One thing I would recommend is getting a copy of the pathology report.  It would be nice to know if the deep margin on the 2mm lesion was involved or clear.  Basically, did they leave any depth behind?  Since depth is the most telling prognostic factor, it is helpful to know if they got the complete depth.  The pathology report would tell you that.

            The next step is the surgery and to find out whether or not the melanoma has spread.  You really can't do anything else until you know those results.

            Feel free to ask any additional questions you have here.

            Best wishes,

            Janner

            Janner
            Participant

              The Sentinel Node biopsy is where they use a radioactive tracer to trace the lymph drainage path from the primary lesion.  This is standard protocol in lesions deeper than 1mm.  The purpose is to see if any melanoma cells have left the primary lesion and followed the lymph vessels to the first lymph node (sentinel node) in the drainage path. 

              After that is complete (and it the same setting), they then remove additional tissue.  This also is standard protocol.  WLE – wide local excision.  In lesions 2mm and deeper, then take 2cm margins.  This means there will be a sizeable amount of tissue removed.  The "diamond" removal is basically just a technique to close the skin.  If you take 2cm on all sides of a lesion, you can't just pull the skin together to close it.  So there are plastic surgery techniques used to close the skin and minimize the tissue taken if possible.  The purpose of this is to remove any cells that might remain behind and any that might be thinking of "traveling" elsewhere.

              I understand that everything is a bunch of medical jargon at this point, but it sounds like your daughter is being treated with standard protocols.  If possible, it would be nice to see a melanoma specialist. 

              One thing I would recommend is getting a copy of the pathology report.  It would be nice to know if the deep margin on the 2mm lesion was involved or clear.  Basically, did they leave any depth behind?  Since depth is the most telling prognostic factor, it is helpful to know if they got the complete depth.  The pathology report would tell you that.

              The next step is the surgery and to find out whether or not the melanoma has spread.  You really can't do anything else until you know those results.

              Feel free to ask any additional questions you have here.

              Best wishes,

              Janner

              POW
              Participant

                Janner is right, of course. This is all standard procedure (and a good procedure) when melanoma is first diagnosed. 

                Lymph fluid is a fluid in your body that contains and transports antibodies. It circulates from lymph node to lymph node in lymph vessels, which are similar to blood vessels. When melanoma spreads, a few malignant cells leave the original site and travel through the lymph vessels. They get stuck in the closest lymph node (the "sentinel node") and start to grow there. So your daughter's doctor wants to see if any melanoma cells got away from the original site and took up residence in the sentinel node. Since lymph nodes are very small, they are hard to see. So the surgeon injects a tiny amount of radioactive dye to help him find and remove the correct lymph node. They usually remove several lymph nodes close to the original site and check them all for melanoma. 

                Again, this is all standard practice and it does NOT mean that your daughter is in grave danger. Once you have the pathology report and the sentinel node biopsy (SNB) report, post them here and we can help you and your daughter understand them. 

                POW
                Participant

                  Janner is right, of course. This is all standard procedure (and a good procedure) when melanoma is first diagnosed. 

                  Lymph fluid is a fluid in your body that contains and transports antibodies. It circulates from lymph node to lymph node in lymph vessels, which are similar to blood vessels. When melanoma spreads, a few malignant cells leave the original site and travel through the lymph vessels. They get stuck in the closest lymph node (the "sentinel node") and start to grow there. So your daughter's doctor wants to see if any melanoma cells got away from the original site and took up residence in the sentinel node. Since lymph nodes are very small, they are hard to see. So the surgeon injects a tiny amount of radioactive dye to help him find and remove the correct lymph node. They usually remove several lymph nodes close to the original site and check them all for melanoma. 

                  Again, this is all standard practice and it does NOT mean that your daughter is in grave danger. Once you have the pathology report and the sentinel node biopsy (SNB) report, post them here and we can help you and your daughter understand them. 

                  POW
                  Participant

                    Janner is right, of course. This is all standard procedure (and a good procedure) when melanoma is first diagnosed. 

                    Lymph fluid is a fluid in your body that contains and transports antibodies. It circulates from lymph node to lymph node in lymph vessels, which are similar to blood vessels. When melanoma spreads, a few malignant cells leave the original site and travel through the lymph vessels. They get stuck in the closest lymph node (the "sentinel node") and start to grow there. So your daughter's doctor wants to see if any melanoma cells got away from the original site and took up residence in the sentinel node. Since lymph nodes are very small, they are hard to see. So the surgeon injects a tiny amount of radioactive dye to help him find and remove the correct lymph node. They usually remove several lymph nodes close to the original site and check them all for melanoma. 

                    Again, this is all standard practice and it does NOT mean that your daughter is in grave danger. Once you have the pathology report and the sentinel node biopsy (SNB) report, post them here and we can help you and your daughter understand them. 

                    shep
                    Participant

                      thank-you janner and pow, i will post when we get results. also have informed my daughter of this site, she has a booklet on the subject… but this forum format lends itself well to questions and you have given me an idea that this is all sop.

                      shep
                      Participant

                        thank-you janner and pow, i will post when we get results. also have informed my daughter of this site, she has a booklet on the subject… but this forum format lends itself well to questions and you have given me an idea that this is all sop.

                        shep
                        Participant

                          thank-you janner and pow, i will post when we get results. also have informed my daughter of this site, she has a booklet on the subject… but this forum format lends itself well to questions and you have given me an idea that this is all sop.

                          shep
                          Participant

                            update from 6 moles removed. 3 came back positive. my daughter has been diagosed with dysplastic nevus syndrome now, and has been recommended to a clinic/hospital in chicago. not sure which one yet, she rec'd a call while at my granddaughters  volleyball game. will know where tomorrow. she is definately in need of advice, and i will be trying to get more involved with her oncologist so i can get the results and be clear of what is said. daughter is overwhelmed and is not getting information to set in her memory. janner, i believe after reading your profile, that this is simiar to what you went thru. daughter has had same allergic reactions to adhesives.

                            shep
                            Participant

                              update from 6 moles removed. 3 came back positive. my daughter has been diagosed with dysplastic nevus syndrome now, and has been recommended to a clinic/hospital in chicago. not sure which one yet, she rec'd a call while at my granddaughters  volleyball game. will know where tomorrow. she is definately in need of advice, and i will be trying to get more involved with her oncologist so i can get the results and be clear of what is said. daughter is overwhelmed and is not getting information to set in her memory. janner, i believe after reading your profile, that this is simiar to what you went thru. daughter has had same allergic reactions to adhesives.

                              shep
                              Participant

                                update from 6 moles removed. 3 came back positive. my daughter has been diagosed with dysplastic nevus syndrome now, and has been recommended to a clinic/hospital in chicago. not sure which one yet, she rec'd a call while at my granddaughters  volleyball game. will know where tomorrow. she is definately in need of advice, and i will be trying to get more involved with her oncologist so i can get the results and be clear of what is said. daughter is overwhelmed and is not getting information to set in her memory. janner, i believe after reading your profile, that this is simiar to what you went thru. daughter has had same allergic reactions to adhesives.

                                  JerryfromFauq
                                  Participant

                                    One should always have someone else with them as wel,l  as having written out any questions/thoughts that one wants mentioned to the Oncologists.  This is a hard subject to grasp, much less understand and remember what we hear, especially at the start.

                                      Aalso gset copies of all the reports to help understand what is happening.

                                     

                                    Good luck

                                    JerryfromFauq
                                    Participant

                                      One should always have someone else with them as wel,l  as having written out any questions/thoughts that one wants mentioned to the Oncologists.  This is a hard subject to grasp, much less understand and remember what we hear, especially at the start.

                                        Aalso gset copies of all the reports to help understand what is happening.

                                       

                                      Good luck

                                      JerryfromFauq
                                      Participant

                                        One should always have someone else with them as wel,l  as having written out any questions/thoughts that one wants mentioned to the Oncologists.  This is a hard subject to grasp, much less understand and remember what we hear, especially at the start.

                                          Aalso gset copies of all the reports to help understand what is happening.

                                         

                                        Good luck

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