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- June 23, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Acton plans from doctors is going excruciatingly slow – can we translate that to "it's not too serious"? 31 days since biopsy results, matsatic melanoma stage 4. Nodule in right mid lobe 2 cm and 3-4 cm subcarinal lymph node showed high levels of activity as well after PET scan. Still waiting on Brain MRI to be done this week.
Back and forth messages to doctors after our first initial visit, surgeon supposed to call today.
Can anyone share success on surgery – he would remove right mid lobe and all lymph nodes, affected or not per PET scan.
Is surgery typically accompanied by medication/ drug therapy as well?
Has anyone chosen NOT to do surgery and just go drug therapy alone?
We have an appt. with melanoma specialist on Thursday for 2nd opinion. The challenge with the doctors at Scripps, they have been speaking to my husband via phone and he cannot remember a thing that they say! Of course he is overwhelmed, he has been landed this huge diagnosis.
Should doctors, like any other business, be presenting us with a written plan?? Thank you for any insight – we are having to catch up to a lot of info and what we should be asking.
Rita
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- June 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Hi Rita and Charles, I feel your frustration. First of all, I had lung and brain mets 2 years ago and I am still around. My Oncologist worked together with the radiologist and neural surgeon to come up with a plan. There decision was my best chance was to get into the up coming trial of Immunotherapy now called checkmate 67 from Bristol Myer Squibb. The criteria to get into the trial at that time was no active brain mets, so they decided that the three small mets in my brain should be treated with stereotatic radio surgery (SRS). At the Ottawa general they have a cyberknife machine and I feel that the cyberknife surgery save my life. I wouldn't want to give you advice about having the lung surgery or not. I would try to get into the expanded access trial of ipi and Nivolumab. If you don't respond to the immunotherapy then you could always get the lung surgery. I would want to have the results from the Mri on the brain before going forward. Is your husband having any symptoms from his lung mets? Is the lung met changing quickly or is it growing slowly? These factors should be discussed with the Oncologist. Wishing you the best!!! Ed
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- June 23, 2015 at 5:53 pm
Ed – Wow, so helpful! I am printing all of your advice to discuss with my doctor. This is such a helpful forum, I am learning so much and gaining insight to all of the other avenues. Thank you!
I am so glad to hear that you are doing well, when we got the biopsy result of stage 4 metastatic malignant melanoma, and lymph nodes, we thought it was a death sentence. How are you doing now???
Thanks, Rita
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- June 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm
I am doing good Rita, thank you for asking. There are 945 others in the study, from all other the globe. Do to the fact that there are three arms of the study and that it is blinded none of us can for sure say what we are getting. My early results which showed tumor shrinkage indicate to me that I must be getting Nivolumab. I continue to get treatment every two weeks up to next January. I would say that fatigue has been my main side effect, which is easy to deal with compared to what so many others have gone through on the forum. Scans have become routine and I am happy to have continued stable results. Good luck with the Oncologist on Thursday! Ed
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- June 24, 2015 at 12:04 am
I was diagnosed 4 years ago with 5 lung tumors and 1 brain tumor,had Gamma knife and 2 brain surgeries,my last scans showed things are ok. in the brain and the 5 lung tumors are still there-the are growing very slow so my onc.tells me to watch and wait-his famous words are " I don't won't to make you sick",so as of today I am going with his advise.I would wait a bit befor a lung surgery,you also can do Cyber knfe on the lung or as recommended any of the new drugs.
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- June 24, 2015 at 12:04 am
I was diagnosed 4 years ago with 5 lung tumors and 1 brain tumor,had Gamma knife and 2 brain surgeries,my last scans showed things are ok. in the brain and the 5 lung tumors are still there-the are growing very slow so my onc.tells me to watch and wait-his famous words are " I don't won't to make you sick",so as of today I am going with his advise.I would wait a bit befor a lung surgery,you also can do Cyber knfe on the lung or as recommended any of the new drugs.
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- June 24, 2015 at 12:04 am
I was diagnosed 4 years ago with 5 lung tumors and 1 brain tumor,had Gamma knife and 2 brain surgeries,my last scans showed things are ok. in the brain and the 5 lung tumors are still there-the are growing very slow so my onc.tells me to watch and wait-his famous words are " I don't won't to make you sick",so as of today I am going with his advise.I would wait a bit befor a lung surgery,you also can do Cyber knfe on the lung or as recommended any of the new drugs.
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- June 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm
I am doing good Rita, thank you for asking. There are 945 others in the study, from all other the globe. Do to the fact that there are three arms of the study and that it is blinded none of us can for sure say what we are getting. My early results which showed tumor shrinkage indicate to me that I must be getting Nivolumab. I continue to get treatment every two weeks up to next January. I would say that fatigue has been my main side effect, which is easy to deal with compared to what so many others have gone through on the forum. Scans have become routine and I am happy to have continued stable results. Good luck with the Oncologist on Thursday! Ed
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- June 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm
I am doing good Rita, thank you for asking. There are 945 others in the study, from all other the globe. Do to the fact that there are three arms of the study and that it is blinded none of us can for sure say what we are getting. My early results which showed tumor shrinkage indicate to me that I must be getting Nivolumab. I continue to get treatment every two weeks up to next January. I would say that fatigue has been my main side effect, which is easy to deal with compared to what so many others have gone through on the forum. Scans have become routine and I am happy to have continued stable results. Good luck with the Oncologist on Thursday! Ed
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- June 23, 2015 at 5:53 pm
Ed – Wow, so helpful! I am printing all of your advice to discuss with my doctor. This is such a helpful forum, I am learning so much and gaining insight to all of the other avenues. Thank you!
I am so glad to hear that you are doing well, when we got the biopsy result of stage 4 metastatic malignant melanoma, and lymph nodes, we thought it was a death sentence. How are you doing now???
Thanks, Rita
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- June 23, 2015 at 5:53 pm
Ed – Wow, so helpful! I am printing all of your advice to discuss with my doctor. This is such a helpful forum, I am learning so much and gaining insight to all of the other avenues. Thank you!
I am so glad to hear that you are doing well, when we got the biopsy result of stage 4 metastatic malignant melanoma, and lymph nodes, we thought it was a death sentence. How are you doing now???
Thanks, Rita
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- June 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Hi Rita and Charles, I feel your frustration. First of all, I had lung and brain mets 2 years ago and I am still around. My Oncologist worked together with the radiologist and neural surgeon to come up with a plan. There decision was my best chance was to get into the up coming trial of Immunotherapy now called checkmate 67 from Bristol Myer Squibb. The criteria to get into the trial at that time was no active brain mets, so they decided that the three small mets in my brain should be treated with stereotatic radio surgery (SRS). At the Ottawa general they have a cyberknife machine and I feel that the cyberknife surgery save my life. I wouldn't want to give you advice about having the lung surgery or not. I would try to get into the expanded access trial of ipi and Nivolumab. If you don't respond to the immunotherapy then you could always get the lung surgery. I would want to have the results from the Mri on the brain before going forward. Is your husband having any symptoms from his lung mets? Is the lung met changing quickly or is it growing slowly? These factors should be discussed with the Oncologist. Wishing you the best!!! Ed
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- June 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Hi Rita and Charles, I feel your frustration. First of all, I had lung and brain mets 2 years ago and I am still around. My Oncologist worked together with the radiologist and neural surgeon to come up with a plan. There decision was my best chance was to get into the up coming trial of Immunotherapy now called checkmate 67 from Bristol Myer Squibb. The criteria to get into the trial at that time was no active brain mets, so they decided that the three small mets in my brain should be treated with stereotatic radio surgery (SRS). At the Ottawa general they have a cyberknife machine and I feel that the cyberknife surgery save my life. I wouldn't want to give you advice about having the lung surgery or not. I would try to get into the expanded access trial of ipi and Nivolumab. If you don't respond to the immunotherapy then you could always get the lung surgery. I would want to have the results from the Mri on the brain before going forward. Is your husband having any symptoms from his lung mets? Is the lung met changing quickly or is it growing slowly? These factors should be discussed with the Oncologist. Wishing you the best!!! Ed
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- June 24, 2015 at 4:57 am
Get a second and third opinion. The doctors should have had all the scans (i.e. brain scans) when they knew it was stage IV and the PET scan lit up.
You should not be receiving back and forth messages this long… And your husband should not be receiving calls about care or appointment because he can't remember conversations. – I don't know if this is stress related, his personality OR a symptom of brain tumors. – Whatever it is, put a stop to this tomorrow.
To get someone else to be the primary contact for all communication about your husbands care and appointments he may need to sign a release to have you and/or another family member be able to communicate with doctors and scheduling about his care. (Preferably a family member who will know exactly what is going on with all appointments, is fairly intelligent and interested in this, has an inquisitive mind, can ask good questions, "deal" with stress, and who can be preferably at appointments) You should also make sure release covers everything i.e. followup scheduling, radiology appointments, all doctors appointments doctors notes, CD images from radiology, basically everything past and everything for the future.
For appointments you can get a mini recorder and ask the doctors if you can record the conversations you have with them for another family member or yourself, which can help you with "remembering" all the information and fir an absent family member. You might also find out if the doctors have good WiFi in the patient rooms. If so, you can get a iPad or other device with Skype on it and a family member can be "present" for the appointment and the family member can see the doctor and vice versa and communicate during the appointments if they can't be there in person.
In my experience the oncologists did not present a written plan, but we explored multiple options: Gamma Knife Radiation (aka SRS) and Yervoy, due to brain mets, and BRAF positive gene combination of trametinib (Mekinist) and dabrafenib (Tafinlar). My Mom ,after 3 discussions in a 1 week time period, decided to go with Gamma Knife Radiation and Yervoy. Excellent choice for her.
My Moms doctors at USC, in Los Angeles, have been excellent and they have discussions between themselves when she has appointments if there is anything of note and they discuss treatment options and plans, which is documented between them if anything is found or recommended. They have had to do this on a number of occasions such as when my Mom:
1) did so well on the SRS and Yervoy that that she was able to start driving sooner than most,
2) they discussed future options on the off chance she needed other care
3) they discovered bleeding in a treated tumor (treated by a facility in Beverly Hills,) and,
4) a recent scan showed 1 treated tumor (treated by a facility in Beverly Hills not at USC) may be a reoccurrence of cancer – everything else is gone, much much smaller or brain tumors are stable…
Point is that all of her doctors communicate between each other and they brought my Mom's recent brain MRI scan to 2 different tumor boards to talk about what they saw and would recommend based on what they saw. The talked among themselves, other colleagues and brought in a neurosurgeon, at the second tumor board, to look at everything… They may not provided you with a written plan but may and should communicate what they are doing behind the scenes.
Good Luck!
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- June 24, 2015 at 4:57 am
Get a second and third opinion. The doctors should have had all the scans (i.e. brain scans) when they knew it was stage IV and the PET scan lit up.
You should not be receiving back and forth messages this long… And your husband should not be receiving calls about care or appointment because he can't remember conversations. – I don't know if this is stress related, his personality OR a symptom of brain tumors. – Whatever it is, put a stop to this tomorrow.
To get someone else to be the primary contact for all communication about your husbands care and appointments he may need to sign a release to have you and/or another family member be able to communicate with doctors and scheduling about his care. (Preferably a family member who will know exactly what is going on with all appointments, is fairly intelligent and interested in this, has an inquisitive mind, can ask good questions, "deal" with stress, and who can be preferably at appointments) You should also make sure release covers everything i.e. followup scheduling, radiology appointments, all doctors appointments doctors notes, CD images from radiology, basically everything past and everything for the future.
For appointments you can get a mini recorder and ask the doctors if you can record the conversations you have with them for another family member or yourself, which can help you with "remembering" all the information and fir an absent family member. You might also find out if the doctors have good WiFi in the patient rooms. If so, you can get a iPad or other device with Skype on it and a family member can be "present" for the appointment and the family member can see the doctor and vice versa and communicate during the appointments if they can't be there in person.
In my experience the oncologists did not present a written plan, but we explored multiple options: Gamma Knife Radiation (aka SRS) and Yervoy, due to brain mets, and BRAF positive gene combination of trametinib (Mekinist) and dabrafenib (Tafinlar). My Mom ,after 3 discussions in a 1 week time period, decided to go with Gamma Knife Radiation and Yervoy. Excellent choice for her.
My Moms doctors at USC, in Los Angeles, have been excellent and they have discussions between themselves when she has appointments if there is anything of note and they discuss treatment options and plans, which is documented between them if anything is found or recommended. They have had to do this on a number of occasions such as when my Mom:
1) did so well on the SRS and Yervoy that that she was able to start driving sooner than most,
2) they discussed future options on the off chance she needed other care
3) they discovered bleeding in a treated tumor (treated by a facility in Beverly Hills,) and,
4) a recent scan showed 1 treated tumor (treated by a facility in Beverly Hills not at USC) may be a reoccurrence of cancer – everything else is gone, much much smaller or brain tumors are stable…
Point is that all of her doctors communicate between each other and they brought my Mom's recent brain MRI scan to 2 different tumor boards to talk about what they saw and would recommend based on what they saw. The talked among themselves, other colleagues and brought in a neurosurgeon, at the second tumor board, to look at everything… They may not provided you with a written plan but may and should communicate what they are doing behind the scenes.
Good Luck!
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- June 24, 2015 at 4:57 am
Get a second and third opinion. The doctors should have had all the scans (i.e. brain scans) when they knew it was stage IV and the PET scan lit up.
You should not be receiving back and forth messages this long… And your husband should not be receiving calls about care or appointment because he can't remember conversations. – I don't know if this is stress related, his personality OR a symptom of brain tumors. – Whatever it is, put a stop to this tomorrow.
To get someone else to be the primary contact for all communication about your husbands care and appointments he may need to sign a release to have you and/or another family member be able to communicate with doctors and scheduling about his care. (Preferably a family member who will know exactly what is going on with all appointments, is fairly intelligent and interested in this, has an inquisitive mind, can ask good questions, "deal" with stress, and who can be preferably at appointments) You should also make sure release covers everything i.e. followup scheduling, radiology appointments, all doctors appointments doctors notes, CD images from radiology, basically everything past and everything for the future.
For appointments you can get a mini recorder and ask the doctors if you can record the conversations you have with them for another family member or yourself, which can help you with "remembering" all the information and fir an absent family member. You might also find out if the doctors have good WiFi in the patient rooms. If so, you can get a iPad or other device with Skype on it and a family member can be "present" for the appointment and the family member can see the doctor and vice versa and communicate during the appointments if they can't be there in person.
In my experience the oncologists did not present a written plan, but we explored multiple options: Gamma Knife Radiation (aka SRS) and Yervoy, due to brain mets, and BRAF positive gene combination of trametinib (Mekinist) and dabrafenib (Tafinlar). My Mom ,after 3 discussions in a 1 week time period, decided to go with Gamma Knife Radiation and Yervoy. Excellent choice for her.
My Moms doctors at USC, in Los Angeles, have been excellent and they have discussions between themselves when she has appointments if there is anything of note and they discuss treatment options and plans, which is documented between them if anything is found or recommended. They have had to do this on a number of occasions such as when my Mom:
1) did so well on the SRS and Yervoy that that she was able to start driving sooner than most,
2) they discussed future options on the off chance she needed other care
3) they discovered bleeding in a treated tumor (treated by a facility in Beverly Hills,) and,
4) a recent scan showed 1 treated tumor (treated by a facility in Beverly Hills not at USC) may be a reoccurrence of cancer – everything else is gone, much much smaller or brain tumors are stable…
Point is that all of her doctors communicate between each other and they brought my Mom's recent brain MRI scan to 2 different tumor boards to talk about what they saw and would recommend based on what they saw. The talked among themselves, other colleagues and brought in a neurosurgeon, at the second tumor board, to look at everything… They may not provided you with a written plan but may and should communicate what they are doing behind the scenes.
Good Luck!
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