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Food Suppliments for melanoma patients

Forums General Melanoma Community Food Suppliments for melanoma patients

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    natasha
    Participant

      Hi!  Could you ,please ,recommend food suppliments .It should be something what can help to boost our immune system.

      All I bought is Garlic tablets and Vitabiotics Immunace Antioxidants with vit A D E K C zinc copper niacin selenium.

      Could you recommend something helpful ,please???

      Thank you very much

      Natasha

      Hi!  Could you ,please ,recommend food suppliments .It should be something what can help to boost our immune system.

      All I bought is Garlic tablets and Vitabiotics Immunace Antioxidants with vit A D E K C zinc copper niacin selenium.

      Could you recommend something helpful ,please???

      Thank you very much

      Natasha

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        FormerCaregiver
        Participant

          Natasha, a number of nutritional supplements such as curcumin, omega 3 fish oil, selenium and garlic do seem to have general anticancer properties. I also think that a healthy diet and lifestyle are very important.

          The big problem with this topic at the moment is a lack of foolproof evidence regarding what will improve the prognosis of melanoma patients. What works in theory may or may not work in practice, as melanoma is an especially devious cancer.

          I also feel that a healthy immune system needs sufficient vitamin D. Levels of this vitamin can be checked with a simple blood test.

          Hope this helps

          Frank from Australia

          FormerCaregiver
          Participant

            Natasha, a number of nutritional supplements such as curcumin, omega 3 fish oil, selenium and garlic do seem to have general anticancer properties. I also think that a healthy diet and lifestyle are very important.

            The big problem with this topic at the moment is a lack of foolproof evidence regarding what will improve the prognosis of melanoma patients. What works in theory may or may not work in practice, as melanoma is an especially devious cancer.

            I also feel that a healthy immune system needs sufficient vitamin D. Levels of this vitamin can be checked with a simple blood test.

            Hope this helps

            Frank from Australia

              natasha
              Participant

                Thanks for your reply , Frank! I trying to help myself as I can ,Because all tests takes too long time to make an oppiontment here in UK. I am not sure how does it work in Australia. I was told by my Dr it is largest and most famous melaoma institute in Sydney ,so I suppose it is much more help in where.

                natasha
                Participant

                  Thanks for your reply , Frank! I trying to help myself as I can ,Because all tests takes too long time to make an oppiontment here in UK. I am not sure how does it work in Australia. I was told by my Dr it is largest and most famous melaoma institute in Sydney ,so I suppose it is much more help in where.

                  FormerCaregiver
                  Participant

                    Natasha, the health system here is different from the UK and in very simple terms is a mixture of government and privately funded health care. However, I feel that the best melanoma treatments are generally available in the States at the moment.

                    Take care

                    Frank from Australia

                    FormerCaregiver
                    Participant

                      Natasha, the health system here is different from the UK and in very simple terms is a mixture of government and privately funded health care. However, I feel that the best melanoma treatments are generally available in the States at the moment.

                      Take care

                      Frank from Australia

                      FormerCaregiver
                      Participant

                        Natasha, the health system here is different from the UK and in very simple terms is a mixture of government and privately funded health care. However, I feel that the best melanoma treatments are generally available in the States at the moment.

                        Take care

                        Frank from Australia

                        natasha
                        Participant

                          Thanks for your reply , Frank! I trying to help myself as I can ,Because all tests takes too long time to make an oppiontment here in UK. I am not sure how does it work in Australia. I was told by my Dr it is largest and most famous melaoma institute in Sydney ,so I suppose it is much more help in where.

                          melanomabegone
                          Participant

                             

                            It is so good to finally see people with an open mind, think outside the box, keep up with what is out there and most importantly being proactive for your own health. I posted before (http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/beating-melanoma-need-post-photos) and unfortunately other than a few responses who were concern for me (which I greatly appreciate) the others are not only negative but downright abusive. Since you are obviously openminded, you may wish to visit my post and check out the scientific references I posted.
                             
                            In the mean time I like to include the following including some special excerpts:
                             
                            Selenium – University of Michigan Health System
                             
                            The strongest evidence supporting the anticancer effects of selenium supplementation comes from a double-blind trial of 1,312 Americans with a history of skin cancer who were treated with 200 mcg of yeast-based selenium per day or placebo for 4.5 years, then followed for an additional two years.27 Although no decrease in skin cancers occurred, a dramatic 50% reduction in overall cancer deaths and a 37% reduction in total cancer incidence were observed. A statistically significant 58% decrease in cancers of the colon and rectum was reported.
                             
                            Little is known about the effects of selenium in the treatment of people with existing cancer. Selenium supplementation was reported to improve immune function in colon cancer patients,28 but no long-term follow-up was done to evaluate whether these patients ultimately lived longer or fared better.
                             
                             
                            There is one spice that can prevent as well as treat existing cancer and it is Curcumin. Please read:

                             
                             
                            Targeting Inflammatory Pathways for Prevention and Therapy of Cancer: Short-Term Friend, Long-Term Foe
                             
                            Excerpt:
                             
                            Most carcinogens activate NF-kB and STAT3 pathways.
                             

                            Numerous agents identified from natural sources can block the NF-nB pathway, including curcumin, resveratrol, ursolic acid, capsaicin, silymarin, guggulsterone, and plumbagin (91 – 97). Several of these agents also suppress the STAT3 pathway (98 – 103), suggesting that they exhibit multiple targets. In addition to agents from natural products, synthetic and semisynthetic agents also inhibit the NF-nB or STAT3 pathway. For example, the semisynthetic compound flavopir- idol has been reported its activity on NF-nB and STAT3 suppression. Pharmacologically, these agents have been shown to be quite safe, and thus, they can be used not for just prevention but also therapy. In human clinical trials, curcumin has been shown to actually down-regulate both the NF-nB and STAT3 pathways (104). To our knowledge, curcumin is the only agent among all those tested in patients that has been shown to down-regulate both the NF-nB and STAT3 pathways (49, 51, 104). By this property, therefore, curcumin has been shown to have potential in the treatment of human pancreatic cancer (51), familial adenomatous polyposis (105), inflamma- tory bowel disease (Crohn’s disease; ref. 106), irritable bowel disease (107), and other proinflammatory diseases (108) in clinical trials.
                             

                            Conclusion  Whether the objective is prevention or therapy of cancer, the targets are the same. The evidence described here clearly shows that inflammatory pathways are critical targets in both prevention and therapy of cancer. Therefore, identification of agents/drugs that can suppress these pathways has enormous potential. Most drugs fail because they are monotargeted, toxic, ineffective, and unaffordable by many. Because of cross-talk between the pathways, cancers are caused by dysregulation of multiple pathways. Thus, agents that can suppress NF-nB, STAT3, and other pathways (e.g., PI3K/AKT, HIF-1) are likely to be more effective drugs. Because of their safety and ability to affect multiple targets, natural products are likely to have a special place in the preventive and therapeutic armamentarium for cancer. 
                             
                             
                            AAPS J. 2009 Sep;11(3):495-510. Epub 2009 Jul 10. 

                            Curcumin and cancer cells: how many ways can curry kill tumor cells selectively?

                             

                            http://www.care2.com/greenliving/a-surprising-cause-of-melanoma.html?page=1

                            A Surprising Cause of Melanoma  Dr. Mercola – January 29, 2012

                            This basically summarizes and vindicates my previous post that had received such criticism from the close-minded.
                             
                            Antimetastatic activity of curcumin
                             
                             
                            One vitamin that has attracted a lot of research and attention is Vitamin K, specifically K2. Check out:
                            Drugs like Coumadin® that antagonize vitamin K do more than cause bone loss and
                            arterial calcification. In a model of melanoma in mice, the oral administration of
                            anticoagulant drugs that antagonize vitamin K "drastically promoted metastasis."  The
                            promotion of metastasis was almost completely suppressed by the pre-administration
                            of vitamin K3, suggesting that these anticoagulant drugs promote metastasis by
                            specifically antagonizing vitamin K.

                             
                            This shows the cancer fighting power of Vitamin K but you do NOT want to take K3 which is toxic. Take K2 if available or MK-7. Check out http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-k/   You can scroll down and read instead of listening to the video.

                             
                            Antitumour Effect of Vitamin Kon Hepatocellular Carcinoma

                             
                            Since you are open to supplements you would already know about the importance of diet and life style. Allow me to emphasize these points:
                            1. The dosage as recommended by the FDA is the "Minimum Daily Requirement", meaning that if you do not even have these levels you will get sick. However you are not aiming for just survival but for optimum health. Their benefits for cancer prevention or treatment it is dose dependent.
                             
                            2. Other than diet and life style is the importance of digestion. Without proper digestion you cannot get the nutrients and supplements into your body. Take digestive enzymes as needed.
                             
                            3. You do not want too much iron especially if you are in the "older" age group. I will be 71 by March but even younger (as in 50) or women already in menopause do not want too much iron either. Make sure you do not take your Vitamin C with food, especial meat and take it a couple times a day. Also always take your Omega 3 (preferrably Krill Oil if you are not allergic to shellfish) because it contains phospholipids with Vitamin E. Take your Vitamin K2 with Vitamin D3.
                             
                            The only other thing towards optimum health is alkaline water, specifically ionized water. Water ionizer machines is a big topic and I will leave it to yourselves to do your own research.
                             
                            Finally if any of you or someone you know has advance cancer and wish to check out other options (as in traditional plus natural treatments) with a proven tract record of long tern survival (as in 15 years) Check out this link and click through the various cancers he has treated and the survival periods. http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
                             
                            Dr. Gonzalez's treatment history – melanoma (Great long term survival) 
                             
                            Mostly I wish you ALL good health. I hope to hear from you. 
                             
                            Dennis (melanomabegone)
                            melanomabegone
                            Participant

                               

                              It is so good to finally see people with an open mind, think outside the box, keep up with what is out there and most importantly being proactive for your own health. I posted before (http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/beating-melanoma-need-post-photos) and unfortunately other than a few responses who were concern for me (which I greatly appreciate) the others are not only negative but downright abusive. Since you are obviously openminded, you may wish to visit my post and check out the scientific references I posted.
                               
                              In the mean time I like to include the following including some special excerpts:
                               
                              Selenium – University of Michigan Health System
                               
                              The strongest evidence supporting the anticancer effects of selenium supplementation comes from a double-blind trial of 1,312 Americans with a history of skin cancer who were treated with 200 mcg of yeast-based selenium per day or placebo for 4.5 years, then followed for an additional two years.27 Although no decrease in skin cancers occurred, a dramatic 50% reduction in overall cancer deaths and a 37% reduction in total cancer incidence were observed. A statistically significant 58% decrease in cancers of the colon and rectum was reported.
                               
                              Little is known about the effects of selenium in the treatment of people with existing cancer. Selenium supplementation was reported to improve immune function in colon cancer patients,28 but no long-term follow-up was done to evaluate whether these patients ultimately lived longer or fared better.
                               
                               
                              There is one spice that can prevent as well as treat existing cancer and it is Curcumin. Please read:

                               
                               
                              Targeting Inflammatory Pathways for Prevention and Therapy of Cancer: Short-Term Friend, Long-Term Foe
                               
                              Excerpt:
                               
                              Most carcinogens activate NF-kB and STAT3 pathways.
                               

                              Numerous agents identified from natural sources can block the NF-nB pathway, including curcumin, resveratrol, ursolic acid, capsaicin, silymarin, guggulsterone, and plumbagin (91 – 97). Several of these agents also suppress the STAT3 pathway (98 – 103), suggesting that they exhibit multiple targets. In addition to agents from natural products, synthetic and semisynthetic agents also inhibit the NF-nB or STAT3 pathway. For example, the semisynthetic compound flavopir- idol has been reported its activity on NF-nB and STAT3 suppression. Pharmacologically, these agents have been shown to be quite safe, and thus, they can be used not for just prevention but also therapy. In human clinical trials, curcumin has been shown to actually down-regulate both the NF-nB and STAT3 pathways (104). To our knowledge, curcumin is the only agent among all those tested in patients that has been shown to down-regulate both the NF-nB and STAT3 pathways (49, 51, 104). By this property, therefore, curcumin has been shown to have potential in the treatment of human pancreatic cancer (51), familial adenomatous polyposis (105), inflamma- tory bowel disease (Crohn’s disease; ref. 106), irritable bowel disease (107), and other proinflammatory diseases (108) in clinical trials.
                               

                              Conclusion  Whether the objective is prevention or therapy of cancer, the targets are the same. The evidence described here clearly shows that inflammatory pathways are critical targets in both prevention and therapy of cancer. Therefore, identification of agents/drugs that can suppress these pathways has enormous potential. Most drugs fail because they are monotargeted, toxic, ineffective, and unaffordable by many. Because of cross-talk between the pathways, cancers are caused by dysregulation of multiple pathways. Thus, agents that can suppress NF-nB, STAT3, and other pathways (e.g., PI3K/AKT, HIF-1) are likely to be more effective drugs. Because of their safety and ability to affect multiple targets, natural products are likely to have a special place in the preventive and therapeutic armamentarium for cancer. 
                               
                               
                              AAPS J. 2009 Sep;11(3):495-510. Epub 2009 Jul 10. 

                              Curcumin and cancer cells: how many ways can curry kill tumor cells selectively?

                               

                              http://www.care2.com/greenliving/a-surprising-cause-of-melanoma.html?page=1

                              A Surprising Cause of Melanoma  Dr. Mercola – January 29, 2012

                              This basically summarizes and vindicates my previous post that had received such criticism from the close-minded.
                               
                              Antimetastatic activity of curcumin
                               
                               
                              One vitamin that has attracted a lot of research and attention is Vitamin K, specifically K2. Check out:
                              Drugs like Coumadin® that antagonize vitamin K do more than cause bone loss and
                              arterial calcification. In a model of melanoma in mice, the oral administration of
                              anticoagulant drugs that antagonize vitamin K "drastically promoted metastasis."  The
                              promotion of metastasis was almost completely suppressed by the pre-administration
                              of vitamin K3, suggesting that these anticoagulant drugs promote metastasis by
                              specifically antagonizing vitamin K.

                               
                              This shows the cancer fighting power of Vitamin K but you do NOT want to take K3 which is toxic. Take K2 if available or MK-7. Check out http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-k/   You can scroll down and read instead of listening to the video.

                               
                              Antitumour Effect of Vitamin Kon Hepatocellular Carcinoma

                               
                              Since you are open to supplements you would already know about the importance of diet and life style. Allow me to emphasize these points:
                              1. The dosage as recommended by the FDA is the "Minimum Daily Requirement", meaning that if you do not even have these levels you will get sick. However you are not aiming for just survival but for optimum health. Their benefits for cancer prevention or treatment it is dose dependent.
                               
                              2. Other than diet and life style is the importance of digestion. Without proper digestion you cannot get the nutrients and supplements into your body. Take digestive enzymes as needed.
                               
                              3. You do not want too much iron especially if you are in the "older" age group. I will be 71 by March but even younger (as in 50) or women already in menopause do not want too much iron either. Make sure you do not take your Vitamin C with food, especial meat and take it a couple times a day. Also always take your Omega 3 (preferrably Krill Oil if you are not allergic to shellfish) because it contains phospholipids with Vitamin E. Take your Vitamin K2 with Vitamin D3.
                               
                              The only other thing towards optimum health is alkaline water, specifically ionized water. Water ionizer machines is a big topic and I will leave it to yourselves to do your own research.
                               
                              Finally if any of you or someone you know has advance cancer and wish to check out other options (as in traditional plus natural treatments) with a proven tract record of long tern survival (as in 15 years) Check out this link and click through the various cancers he has treated and the survival periods. http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
                               
                              Dr. Gonzalez's treatment history – melanoma (Great long term survival) 
                               
                              Mostly I wish you ALL good health. I hope to hear from you. 
                               
                              Dennis (melanomabegone)
                              bcl
                              Participant

                                 

                                Hi Dennis,  I had a look at your profile. You state you are your own doctor and are treating something you consider to be a definite melanoma. But you have no pathology report (no histological diagnosis)  to verify this. Is this really still the case? 

                                I also read the thread you referenced, no offense Dennis, but it felt like an infomercial, are you going to reference it every time you post here? 

                                 

                                 

                                And for the record,  Nicholas Gonzalez has been mentiond here before.. for a failed trial I believe.

                                 

                                http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/has-anyone-ever-gone-see-nicholas-gonzalez-md-trea

                                 

                                http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/xango-mangosteen

                                 

                                http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/clearing-obvious-misconceptions

                                bcl
                                Participant

                                   

                                  Hi Dennis,  I had a look at your profile. You state you are your own doctor and are treating something you consider to be a definite melanoma. But you have no pathology report (no histological diagnosis)  to verify this. Is this really still the case? 

                                  I also read the thread you referenced, no offense Dennis, but it felt like an infomercial, are you going to reference it every time you post here? 

                                   

                                   

                                  And for the record,  Nicholas Gonzalez has been mentiond here before.. for a failed trial I believe.

                                   

                                  http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/has-anyone-ever-gone-see-nicholas-gonzalez-md-trea

                                   

                                  http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/xango-mangosteen

                                   

                                  http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/clearing-obvious-misconceptions

                                  Gene_S
                                  Participant

                                    RE:  "And for the record,  Nicholas Gonzalez has been mentioned here before.. for a failed trial I believe."

                                    ————————————————————————————————————————–

                                    It should be noted that, Dr. Gonzalez specialty is for PANCREATIC cancer, not melanoma!

                                    Too bad so many readers here have their blinders on when it comes to alt. treatments!

                                    Dennis, keep doing your own homework!  bcl, good luck if you only believe in a medicinal doctor.

                                    Gene_S
                                    Participant

                                      RE:  "And for the record,  Nicholas Gonzalez has been mentioned here before.. for a failed trial I believe."

                                      ————————————————————————————————————————–

                                      It should be noted that, Dr. Gonzalez specialty is for PANCREATIC cancer, not melanoma!

                                      Too bad so many readers here have their blinders on when it comes to alt. treatments!

                                      Dennis, keep doing your own homework!  bcl, good luck if you only believe in a medicinal doctor.

                                      Gene_S
                                      Participant

                                        CORRECTION

                                        RE: "bcl, good luck if you only believe in a medicinal doctor."

                                        Sorry, the correct word is medical doctor.

                                        Gene_S
                                        Participant

                                          CORRECTION

                                          RE: "bcl, good luck if you only believe in a medicinal doctor."

                                          Sorry, the correct word is medical doctor.

                                          Gene_S
                                          Participant

                                            CORRECTION

                                            RE: "bcl, good luck if you only believe in a medicinal doctor."

                                            Sorry, the correct word is medical doctor.

                                            Gene_S
                                            Participant

                                              RE:  "And for the record,  Nicholas Gonzalez has been mentioned here before.. for a failed trial I believe."

                                              ————————————————————————————————————————–

                                              It should be noted that, Dr. Gonzalez specialty is for PANCREATIC cancer, not melanoma!

                                              Too bad so many readers here have their blinders on when it comes to alt. treatments!

                                              Dennis, keep doing your own homework!  bcl, good luck if you only believe in a medicinal doctor.

                                              bcl
                                              Participant

                                                 

                                                Hi Dennis,  I had a look at your profile. You state you are your own doctor and are treating something you consider to be a definite melanoma. But you have no pathology report (no histological diagnosis)  to verify this. Is this really still the case? 

                                                I also read the thread you referenced, no offense Dennis, but it felt like an infomercial, are you going to reference it every time you post here? 

                                                 

                                                 

                                                And for the record,  Nicholas Gonzalez has been mentiond here before.. for a failed trial I believe.

                                                 

                                                http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/has-anyone-ever-gone-see-nicholas-gonzalez-md-trea

                                                 

                                                http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/xango-mangosteen

                                                 

                                                http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/clearing-obvious-misconceptions

                                                melanomabegone
                                                Participant

                                                   

                                                  It is so good to finally see people with an open mind, think outside the box, keep up with what is out there and most importantly being proactive for your own health. I posted before (http://www.melanoma.org/community/mpip-melanoma-patients-information-page/beating-melanoma-need-post-photos) and unfortunately other than a few responses who were concern for me (which I greatly appreciate) the others are not only negative but downright abusive. Since you are obviously openminded, you may wish to visit my post and check out the scientific references I posted.
                                                   
                                                  In the mean time I like to include the following including some special excerpts:
                                                   
                                                  Selenium – University of Michigan Health System
                                                   
                                                  The strongest evidence supporting the anticancer effects of selenium supplementation comes from a double-blind trial of 1,312 Americans with a history of skin cancer who were treated with 200 mcg of yeast-based selenium per day or placebo for 4.5 years, then followed for an additional two years.27 Although no decrease in skin cancers occurred, a dramatic 50% reduction in overall cancer deaths and a 37% reduction in total cancer incidence were observed. A statistically significant 58% decrease in cancers of the colon and rectum was reported.
                                                   
                                                  Little is known about the effects of selenium in the treatment of people with existing cancer. Selenium supplementation was reported to improve immune function in colon cancer patients,28 but no long-term follow-up was done to evaluate whether these patients ultimately lived longer or fared better.
                                                   
                                                   
                                                  There is one spice that can prevent as well as treat existing cancer and it is Curcumin. Please read:

                                                   
                                                   
                                                  Targeting Inflammatory Pathways for Prevention and Therapy of Cancer: Short-Term Friend, Long-Term Foe
                                                   
                                                  Excerpt:
                                                   
                                                  Most carcinogens activate NF-kB and STAT3 pathways.
                                                   

                                                  Numerous agents identified from natural sources can block the NF-nB pathway, including curcumin, resveratrol, ursolic acid, capsaicin, silymarin, guggulsterone, and plumbagin (91 – 97). Several of these agents also suppress the STAT3 pathway (98 – 103), suggesting that they exhibit multiple targets. In addition to agents from natural products, synthetic and semisynthetic agents also inhibit the NF-nB or STAT3 pathway. For example, the semisynthetic compound flavopir- idol has been reported its activity on NF-nB and STAT3 suppression. Pharmacologically, these agents have been shown to be quite safe, and thus, they can be used not for just prevention but also therapy. In human clinical trials, curcumin has been shown to actually down-regulate both the NF-nB and STAT3 pathways (104). To our knowledge, curcumin is the only agent among all those tested in patients that has been shown to down-regulate both the NF-nB and STAT3 pathways (49, 51, 104). By this property, therefore, curcumin has been shown to have potential in the treatment of human pancreatic cancer (51), familial adenomatous polyposis (105), inflamma- tory bowel disease (Crohn’s disease; ref. 106), irritable bowel disease (107), and other proinflammatory diseases (108) in clinical trials.
                                                   

                                                  Conclusion  Whether the objective is prevention or therapy of cancer, the targets are the same. The evidence described here clearly shows that inflammatory pathways are critical targets in both prevention and therapy of cancer. Therefore, identification of agents/drugs that can suppress these pathways has enormous potential. Most drugs fail because they are monotargeted, toxic, ineffective, and unaffordable by many. Because of cross-talk between the pathways, cancers are caused by dysregulation of multiple pathways. Thus, agents that can suppress NF-nB, STAT3, and other pathways (e.g., PI3K/AKT, HIF-1) are likely to be more effective drugs. Because of their safety and ability to affect multiple targets, natural products are likely to have a special place in the preventive and therapeutic armamentarium for cancer. 
                                                   
                                                   
                                                  AAPS J. 2009 Sep;11(3):495-510. Epub 2009 Jul 10. 

                                                  Curcumin and cancer cells: how many ways can curry kill tumor cells selectively?

                                                   

                                                  http://www.care2.com/greenliving/a-surprising-cause-of-melanoma.html?page=1

                                                  A Surprising Cause of Melanoma  Dr. Mercola – January 29, 2012

                                                  This basically summarizes and vindicates my previous post that had received such criticism from the close-minded.
                                                   
                                                  Antimetastatic activity of curcumin
                                                   
                                                   
                                                  One vitamin that has attracted a lot of research and attention is Vitamin K, specifically K2. Check out:
                                                  Drugs like Coumadin® that antagonize vitamin K do more than cause bone loss and
                                                  arterial calcification. In a model of melanoma in mice, the oral administration of
                                                  anticoagulant drugs that antagonize vitamin K "drastically promoted metastasis."  The
                                                  promotion of metastasis was almost completely suppressed by the pre-administration
                                                  of vitamin K3, suggesting that these anticoagulant drugs promote metastasis by
                                                  specifically antagonizing vitamin K.

                                                   
                                                  This shows the cancer fighting power of Vitamin K but you do NOT want to take K3 which is toxic. Take K2 if available or MK-7. Check out http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-k/   You can scroll down and read instead of listening to the video.

                                                   
                                                  Antitumour Effect of Vitamin Kon Hepatocellular Carcinoma

                                                   
                                                  Since you are open to supplements you would already know about the importance of diet and life style. Allow me to emphasize these points:
                                                  1. The dosage as recommended by the FDA is the "Minimum Daily Requirement", meaning that if you do not even have these levels you will get sick. However you are not aiming for just survival but for optimum health. Their benefits for cancer prevention or treatment it is dose dependent.
                                                   
                                                  2. Other than diet and life style is the importance of digestion. Without proper digestion you cannot get the nutrients and supplements into your body. Take digestive enzymes as needed.
                                                   
                                                  3. You do not want too much iron especially if you are in the "older" age group. I will be 71 by March but even younger (as in 50) or women already in menopause do not want too much iron either. Make sure you do not take your Vitamin C with food, especial meat and take it a couple times a day. Also always take your Omega 3 (preferrably Krill Oil if you are not allergic to shellfish) because it contains phospholipids with Vitamin E. Take your Vitamin K2 with Vitamin D3.
                                                   
                                                  The only other thing towards optimum health is alkaline water, specifically ionized water. Water ionizer machines is a big topic and I will leave it to yourselves to do your own research.
                                                   
                                                  Finally if any of you or someone you know has advance cancer and wish to check out other options (as in traditional plus natural treatments) with a proven tract record of long tern survival (as in 15 years) Check out this link and click through the various cancers he has treated and the survival periods. http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
                                                   
                                                  Dr. Gonzalez's treatment history – melanoma (Great long term survival) 
                                                   
                                                  Mostly I wish you ALL good health. I hope to hear from you. 
                                                   
                                                  Dennis (melanomabegone)
                                                FormerCaregiver
                                                Participant

                                                  Natasha, a number of nutritional supplements such as curcumin, omega 3 fish oil, selenium and garlic do seem to have general anticancer properties. I also think that a healthy diet and lifestyle are very important.

                                                  The big problem with this topic at the moment is a lack of foolproof evidence regarding what will improve the prognosis of melanoma patients. What works in theory may or may not work in practice, as melanoma is an especially devious cancer.

                                                  I also feel that a healthy immune system needs sufficient vitamin D. Levels of this vitamin can be checked with a simple blood test.

                                                  Hope this helps

                                                  Frank from Australia

                                                  o2bcheri
                                                  Participant

                                                     

                                                    Cellect… check it out.. its a supplement.. and it is working miracles… why not give it a try… can't hurt…

                                                     

                                                    xx

                                                    o2bcheri
                                                    Participant

                                                       

                                                      Cellect… check it out.. its a supplement.. and it is working miracles… why not give it a try… can't hurt…

                                                       

                                                      xx

                                                        natasha
                                                        Participant

                                                          Thank you!!

                                                          I cannot find online store to buy it.

                                                          Do you know link to order this supplement please?I do not think I can buy it in UK shops..

                                                          natasha
                                                          Participant

                                                            Thank you!!

                                                            I cannot find online store to buy it.

                                                            Do you know link to order this supplement please?I do not think I can buy it in UK shops..

                                                            natasha
                                                            Participant

                                                              Thank you!!

                                                              I cannot find online store to buy it.

                                                              Do you know link to order this supplement please?I do not think I can buy it in UK shops..

                                                              o2bcheri
                                                              Participant

                                                                 

                                                                Cellect…

                                                                 

                                                                http://www.ncrf.org    

                                                                 

                                                                i just started it today…

                                                                 

                                                                :)))

                                                                o2bcheri
                                                                Participant

                                                                   

                                                                  Cellect…

                                                                   

                                                                  http://www.ncrf.org    

                                                                   

                                                                  i just started it today…

                                                                   

                                                                  :)))

                                                                  runnergirl
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Best wishes!  I couldn't find the reference on the site you sent me to.  They had no search engine.  As I looked over the material, I would put Fred right up there with Dr. Mercola for using too many words.  As my PhD dtr says, "The plural of anecdotal is NOT data."  I have given the cellect to my husband to research.  Other sites on google include Sloan-Kettering and should be worth going to.  Thanks.

                                                                    runnergirl
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      Best wishes!  I couldn't find the reference on the site you sent me to.  They had no search engine.  As I looked over the material, I would put Fred right up there with Dr. Mercola for using too many words.  As my PhD dtr says, "The plural of anecdotal is NOT data."  I have given the cellect to my husband to research.  Other sites on google include Sloan-Kettering and should be worth going to.  Thanks.

                                                                      runnergirl
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        Best wishes!  I couldn't find the reference on the site you sent me to.  They had no search engine.  As I looked over the material, I would put Fred right up there with Dr. Mercola for using too many words.  As my PhD dtr says, "The plural of anecdotal is NOT data."  I have given the cellect to my husband to research.  Other sites on google include Sloan-Kettering and should be worth going to.  Thanks.

                                                                        o2bcheri
                                                                        Participant

                                                                           

                                                                          631-584-3100 Ext24

                                                                           

                                                                          this is the number for Robert… he is amazingly informative.. so helpful and willing to talk.. i was on the phone with him for over an hour…

                                                                           

                                                                          might give him a call.. can't hurt…

                                                                           

                                                                          xx 

                                                                          o2bcheri
                                                                          Participant

                                                                             

                                                                            631-584-3100 Ext24

                                                                             

                                                                            this is the number for Robert… he is amazingly informative.. so helpful and willing to talk.. i was on the phone with him for over an hour…

                                                                             

                                                                            might give him a call.. can't hurt…

                                                                             

                                                                            xx 

                                                                            o2bcheri
                                                                            Participant

                                                                               

                                                                              631-584-3100 Ext24

                                                                               

                                                                              this is the number for Robert… he is amazingly informative.. so helpful and willing to talk.. i was on the phone with him for over an hour…

                                                                               

                                                                              might give him a call.. can't hurt…

                                                                               

                                                                              xx 

                                                                              o2bcheri
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                 

                                                                                Cellect…

                                                                                 

                                                                                http://www.ncrf.org    

                                                                                 

                                                                                i just started it today…

                                                                                 

                                                                                :)))

                                                                              o2bcheri
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                 

                                                                                Cellect… check it out.. its a supplement.. and it is working miracles… why not give it a try… can't hurt…

                                                                                 

                                                                                xx

                                                                                washoegal
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  Go to the Sloan Kettering web site and chek out their nutrition supplement section before adding too much to your diet.  Some interact.  Many are blood thinners (fish oil), it's important to know what you are taking.  That web site will tell you if there is any evidence that the supplement actually works and how much is recommended.

                                                                                  washoegal
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    Go to the Sloan Kettering web site and chek out their nutrition supplement section before adding too much to your diet.  Some interact.  Many are blood thinners (fish oil), it's important to know what you are taking.  That web site will tell you if there is any evidence that the supplement actually works and how much is recommended.

                                                                                    washoegal
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      Go to the Sloan Kettering web site and chek out their nutrition supplement section before adding too much to your diet.  Some interact.  Many are blood thinners (fish oil), it's important to know what you are taking.  That web site will tell you if there is any evidence that the supplement actually works and how much is recommended.

                                                                                      runnergirl
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        I have 2 children who have PhD's in science; one of them is also a chiropractor.  They are complete polar opposites on this topic.  The PhD,DC wants us on a vegan diet, no sugar, whole grains and gives many supplements (circuman, tumeric); the other tells us that no scientific evidence exists to support any positive effects of diet or supplements on Melanoma.  There you have it from 2 of the greatest scientists on earth (IMO).  My favorite quote:  "The food industry knows nothing about healthcare and the heathcare industry knows nothing about food."

                                                                                        runnergirl
                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                          I have 2 children who have PhD's in science; one of them is also a chiropractor.  They are complete polar opposites on this topic.  The PhD,DC wants us on a vegan diet, no sugar, whole grains and gives many supplements (circuman, tumeric); the other tells us that no scientific evidence exists to support any positive effects of diet or supplements on Melanoma.  There you have it from 2 of the greatest scientists on earth (IMO).  My favorite quote:  "The food industry knows nothing about healthcare and the heathcare industry knows nothing about food."

                                                                                            LynnLuc
                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                              My endocrine Doc at  MOffitt Cancer Center has me on 50,000 vit D-3 a week. Says most people with melanoma tends to have very low levels. I also take a lot of others, but Ester C, Calcium, B-12, B complex , E are my mainstays.

                                                                                              LynnLuc
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                My endocrine Doc at  MOffitt Cancer Center has me on 50,000 vit D-3 a week. Says most people with melanoma tends to have very low levels. I also take a lot of others, but Ester C, Calcium, B-12, B complex , E are my mainstays.

                                                                                                LynnLuc
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  My endocrine Doc at  MOffitt Cancer Center has me on 50,000 vit D-3 a week. Says most people with melanoma tends to have very low levels. I also take a lot of others, but Ester C, Calcium, B-12, B complex , E are my mainstays.

                                                                                                runnergirl
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  I have 2 children who have PhD's in science; one of them is also a chiropractor.  They are complete polar opposites on this topic.  The PhD,DC wants us on a vegan diet, no sugar, whole grains and gives many supplements (circuman, tumeric); the other tells us that no scientific evidence exists to support any positive effects of diet or supplements on Melanoma.  There you have it from 2 of the greatest scientists on earth (IMO).  My favorite quote:  "The food industry knows nothing about healthcare and the heathcare industry knows nothing about food."

                                                                                                  Gene_S
                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                    Hello Natasha,

                                                                                                    In my opinion vitamin D-3 testing is a must! 

                                                                                                    A good book (IMO) that all cancer patients should read is "The Makers Diet".
                                                                                                     
                                                                                                     
                                                                                                    My favorite health related web site is  http://www.naturalnews.com/   be sure to sign up for their free daily email.
                                                                                                     
                                                                                                    Best wishes,
                                                                                                    Gene
                                                                                                    Gene_S
                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                      Hello Natasha,

                                                                                                      In my opinion vitamin D-3 testing is a must! 

                                                                                                      A good book (IMO) that all cancer patients should read is "The Makers Diet".
                                                                                                       
                                                                                                       
                                                                                                      My favorite health related web site is  http://www.naturalnews.com/   be sure to sign up for their free daily email.
                                                                                                       
                                                                                                      Best wishes,
                                                                                                      Gene
                                                                                                      Gene_S
                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                        Hello Natasha,

                                                                                                        In my opinion vitamin D-3 testing is a must! 

                                                                                                        A good book (IMO) that all cancer patients should read is "The Makers Diet".
                                                                                                         
                                                                                                         
                                                                                                        My favorite health related web site is  http://www.naturalnews.com/   be sure to sign up for their free daily email.
                                                                                                         
                                                                                                        Best wishes,
                                                                                                        Gene
                                                                                                        Jim M.
                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                          Hi Natasha,

                                                                                                           Look up AHCC (Used extensively in Japan in mainstream hospitals). Also take a look at Quercetin (has similar properties as curcumin). I am beginning to drink green tea. I also take Life time Liquid calcium citrate, blueberry flavor. Apparently it's better absorbed in this form. 2-3 brazil nuts a day has the selenium we need. Read, "Beating Cancer with Nutrition" and "Challenge Cancer and Win".

                                                                                                           Best of success and God Bless,

                                                                                                           Jim M.

                                                                                                            Kelly7
                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                               Of course Im not a doctor, but since finding out my brother is stage 4, I have spent many many many hours researching, emailing, and reading books about Cancer and alternative treatments to piggy back while going through treatments and life style eating habits to keep while NED. 

                                                                                                              This is what I have so far,  that are beneficial.

                                                                                                               

                                                                                                               

                                                                                                              PectaSol-C to slow down the cancer cells from growing.

                                                                                                              Double Helix Water to repair the cells

                                                                                                              Upping vitamin D levels to 10,000 iu/ day.

                                                                                                              Completely cutting out ALL dairy, sugar, and breads.

                                                                                                               

                                                                                                              Good luck

                                                                                                              Kelly7
                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                 Of course Im not a doctor, but since finding out my brother is stage 4, I have spent many many many hours researching, emailing, and reading books about Cancer and alternative treatments to piggy back while going through treatments and life style eating habits to keep while NED. 

                                                                                                                This is what I have so far,  that are beneficial.

                                                                                                                 

                                                                                                                 

                                                                                                                PectaSol-C to slow down the cancer cells from growing.

                                                                                                                Double Helix Water to repair the cells

                                                                                                                Upping vitamin D levels to 10,000 iu/ day.

                                                                                                                Completely cutting out ALL dairy, sugar, and breads.

                                                                                                                 

                                                                                                                Good luck

                                                                                                                boot2aboot
                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                  Make sure you tell your doctor every suppliment you are on…

                                                                                                                  i take  vitamin D 3000 units a day

                                                                                                                  3000 mg fish oil

                                                                                                                  ALIVE women's multi vitamin daily …one of the best multis i have found…

                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                  cinimman, tumeric, garlic- used as spices in food

                                                                                                                  lots of limes

                                                                                                                  stay away from white flour, rice, bread and sugar, plastic and chemicals…

                                                                                                                  if i eat red meat, i make sure it's organic…

                                                                                                                  exercise and meditate every day

                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                  i don't know if it is doing any good, but anything to bolster immune system just makes sense….especially when we deal with toxities from treatment and scans…

                                                                                                                  boots

                                                                                                                  boot2aboot
                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                    Make sure you tell your doctor every suppliment you are on…

                                                                                                                    i take  vitamin D 3000 units a day

                                                                                                                    3000 mg fish oil

                                                                                                                    ALIVE women's multi vitamin daily …one of the best multis i have found…

                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                    cinimman, tumeric, garlic- used as spices in food

                                                                                                                    lots of limes

                                                                                                                    stay away from white flour, rice, bread and sugar, plastic and chemicals…

                                                                                                                    if i eat red meat, i make sure it's organic…

                                                                                                                    exercise and meditate every day

                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                    i don't know if it is doing any good, but anything to bolster immune system just makes sense….especially when we deal with toxities from treatment and scans…

                                                                                                                    boots

                                                                                                                    boot2aboot
                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                      Make sure you tell your doctor every suppliment you are on…

                                                                                                                      i take  vitamin D 3000 units a day

                                                                                                                      3000 mg fish oil

                                                                                                                      ALIVE women's multi vitamin daily …one of the best multis i have found…

                                                                                                                       

                                                                                                                      cinimman, tumeric, garlic- used as spices in food

                                                                                                                      lots of limes

                                                                                                                      stay away from white flour, rice, bread and sugar, plastic and chemicals…

                                                                                                                      if i eat red meat, i make sure it's organic…

                                                                                                                      exercise and meditate every day

                                                                                                                       

                                                                                                                      i don't know if it is doing any good, but anything to bolster immune system just makes sense….especially when we deal with toxities from treatment and scans…

                                                                                                                      boots

                                                                                                                      Kelly7
                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                         Of course Im not a doctor, but since finding out my brother is stage 4, I have spent many many many hours researching, emailing, and reading books about Cancer and alternative treatments to piggy back while going through treatments and life style eating habits to keep while NED. 

                                                                                                                        This is what I have so far,  that are beneficial.

                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                        PectaSol-C to slow down the cancer cells from growing.

                                                                                                                        Double Helix Water to repair the cells

                                                                                                                        Upping vitamin D levels to 10,000 iu/ day.

                                                                                                                        Completely cutting out ALL dairy, sugar, and breads.

                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                        Good luck

                                                                                                                      Jim M.
                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                        Hi Natasha,

                                                                                                                         Look up AHCC (Used extensively in Japan in mainstream hospitals). Also take a look at Quercetin (has similar properties as curcumin). I am beginning to drink green tea. I also take Life time Liquid calcium citrate, blueberry flavor. Apparently it's better absorbed in this form. 2-3 brazil nuts a day has the selenium we need. Read, "Beating Cancer with Nutrition" and "Challenge Cancer and Win".

                                                                                                                         Best of success and God Bless,

                                                                                                                         Jim M.

                                                                                                                        Jim M.
                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                          Hi Natasha,

                                                                                                                           Look up AHCC (Used extensively in Japan in mainstream hospitals). Also take a look at Quercetin (has similar properties as curcumin). I am beginning to drink green tea. I also take Life time Liquid calcium citrate, blueberry flavor. Apparently it's better absorbed in this form. 2-3 brazil nuts a day has the selenium we need. Read, "Beating Cancer with Nutrition" and "Challenge Cancer and Win".

                                                                                                                           Best of success and God Bless,

                                                                                                                           Jim M.

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