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Maria C.
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- March 10, 2016 at 6:38 pm
Hi all,
Just did a search on this forum about steroids as I've been on and off them for the past 5 months, and am currently on another fairly long dose of them. Starting to get concerned about the short and/or long term side effects of taking predisone for the side effects of ipi/nivo. (like so many health issues, one complication leads to another…)
Has anyone learned (by either research or the hard way!) what to look out for, and if there's anything one can do naturally to counterbalance whatever havoc steroids tend to unleash on one's system?
Many thanks in advance for any advice –
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- March 10, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Hi Maria–I had four infusions of nivo+ipi in early 2014 on a clinical trial and had severe side effects which were treated with large and ongoing doses of prednisone. With me, the prednisone resulted in muscle loss, and a certain amount of bone loss (osteopenia). Some people gain a lot of weight on them, but I didn't. It's important to excercise as much as you can, especially weight bearing exercises, and make sure you are getting plenty of calcium, magnesium, vit D etc. for your bones. At some point in the future you may want to have a bone density scan (no radiation) done.
Hopefully, you will get off of the prednisone soon. My last bout of T cell rampage was about 3 months after my last infusion. Large doses of prednison also suppresses the immune system, which seems ironic, since you want your immune system killing the cancer, but from what I understand, the docs don't believe that it affects the efficacy of the treatment. In my case, my T cells infiltrated lots of different places, and neither my thyroid nor my adrenal glands work anymore, so I am on replacement synthroid and hydrocortisone, and I'm doing pretty well.
Good luck, Ken
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- March 10, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Hi Maria–I had four infusions of nivo+ipi in early 2014 on a clinical trial and had severe side effects which were treated with large and ongoing doses of prednisone. With me, the prednisone resulted in muscle loss, and a certain amount of bone loss (osteopenia). Some people gain a lot of weight on them, but I didn't. It's important to excercise as much as you can, especially weight bearing exercises, and make sure you are getting plenty of calcium, magnesium, vit D etc. for your bones. At some point in the future you may want to have a bone density scan (no radiation) done.
Hopefully, you will get off of the prednisone soon. My last bout of T cell rampage was about 3 months after my last infusion. Large doses of prednison also suppresses the immune system, which seems ironic, since you want your immune system killing the cancer, but from what I understand, the docs don't believe that it affects the efficacy of the treatment. In my case, my T cells infiltrated lots of different places, and neither my thyroid nor my adrenal glands work anymore, so I am on replacement synthroid and hydrocortisone, and I'm doing pretty well.
Good luck, Ken
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- March 12, 2016 at 12:01 am
Ken, thank you for sharing, and I will definitely follow up with my oncologist about whether supplements for calcium, magnesium, Vit D, etc. are OK – I want to get clearance before I take anything else, as so much is in my system now and who knows what messes with what…
Really appreciate your encouragement to exercise, which is long overdue because of the pneuminotis, and that is one GOOD thing about the steroids is that I can breathe more freely to get out and about.
Glad to hear that you are doing well despite the thyroid and adrenal glands shutting down….can't imagine. How long were you on predisone each time after the 4 infusions? After my first, I had a severe reaction that led to about 6 weeks of steroid treatment, after the 2nd, just a quick burst of one week, and now after the 4th, again another 6 week round (starting at 80 mg and tapering down, am on 40 now).
All best –
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- March 12, 2016 at 12:01 am
Ken, thank you for sharing, and I will definitely follow up with my oncologist about whether supplements for calcium, magnesium, Vit D, etc. are OK – I want to get clearance before I take anything else, as so much is in my system now and who knows what messes with what…
Really appreciate your encouragement to exercise, which is long overdue because of the pneuminotis, and that is one GOOD thing about the steroids is that I can breathe more freely to get out and about.
Glad to hear that you are doing well despite the thyroid and adrenal glands shutting down….can't imagine. How long were you on predisone each time after the 4 infusions? After my first, I had a severe reaction that led to about 6 weeks of steroid treatment, after the 2nd, just a quick burst of one week, and now after the 4th, again another 6 week round (starting at 80 mg and tapering down, am on 40 now).
All best –
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- March 12, 2016 at 12:01 am
Ken, thank you for sharing, and I will definitely follow up with my oncologist about whether supplements for calcium, magnesium, Vit D, etc. are OK – I want to get clearance before I take anything else, as so much is in my system now and who knows what messes with what…
Really appreciate your encouragement to exercise, which is long overdue because of the pneuminotis, and that is one GOOD thing about the steroids is that I can breathe more freely to get out and about.
Glad to hear that you are doing well despite the thyroid and adrenal glands shutting down….can't imagine. How long were you on predisone each time after the 4 infusions? After my first, I had a severe reaction that led to about 6 weeks of steroid treatment, after the 2nd, just a quick burst of one week, and now after the 4th, again another 6 week round (starting at 80 mg and tapering down, am on 40 now).
All best –
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- March 10, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Hi Maria–I had four infusions of nivo+ipi in early 2014 on a clinical trial and had severe side effects which were treated with large and ongoing doses of prednisone. With me, the prednisone resulted in muscle loss, and a certain amount of bone loss (osteopenia). Some people gain a lot of weight on them, but I didn't. It's important to excercise as much as you can, especially weight bearing exercises, and make sure you are getting plenty of calcium, magnesium, vit D etc. for your bones. At some point in the future you may want to have a bone density scan (no radiation) done.
Hopefully, you will get off of the prednisone soon. My last bout of T cell rampage was about 3 months after my last infusion. Large doses of prednison also suppresses the immune system, which seems ironic, since you want your immune system killing the cancer, but from what I understand, the docs don't believe that it affects the efficacy of the treatment. In my case, my T cells infiltrated lots of different places, and neither my thyroid nor my adrenal glands work anymore, so I am on replacement synthroid and hydrocortisone, and I'm doing pretty well.
Good luck, Ken
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- March 11, 2016 at 1:05 am
Hi Maria,
I was on Prednisone (ranging from 10-40mg/day) for one year and 3 months when I was 30-31 (20 years ago). This was for an unrelated diagnosis (Meniere's disease). Side effects while I was on Prednisone were: A round/fat face (Cushings syndrome), insomnia, muscle weakness (hard to climb stairs), high agitation/aggression, big drop in IQ points (due to lack of sleep I presume). After I stopped prednisone, all of those symptoms went away. BUT a new one started: Extreme joint pain. Every single joint in my body would hurt when I woke up in the morning. It would steadily improve during the day but if I was still for too long, it would hurt to move again. So every morning was agony. This pain gradually improved until the one-year mark when I no longer had joint pain. Prior to being on Prednisone, and while taking it, I jogged every morning. After stopping prednisone I stopped jogging as it was just too painful. But here I am, 20 years later, with absolutely no joint pain so it was not long-lived. As far as other long-term effects I am not aware of any. It does suppress the immune system which can contribute to cancer (ha!) but I have no way of knowing if that is true in my case and since we all have cancer now anyways it's likely a moot point.
I am not aware of anything specific to be done to counter-balance the effects of a steroid. Hopefully someone else will have some ideas.
Cheers!
Maggie
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- March 11, 2016 at 1:05 am
Hi Maria,
I was on Prednisone (ranging from 10-40mg/day) for one year and 3 months when I was 30-31 (20 years ago). This was for an unrelated diagnosis (Meniere's disease). Side effects while I was on Prednisone were: A round/fat face (Cushings syndrome), insomnia, muscle weakness (hard to climb stairs), high agitation/aggression, big drop in IQ points (due to lack of sleep I presume). After I stopped prednisone, all of those symptoms went away. BUT a new one started: Extreme joint pain. Every single joint in my body would hurt when I woke up in the morning. It would steadily improve during the day but if I was still for too long, it would hurt to move again. So every morning was agony. This pain gradually improved until the one-year mark when I no longer had joint pain. Prior to being on Prednisone, and while taking it, I jogged every morning. After stopping prednisone I stopped jogging as it was just too painful. But here I am, 20 years later, with absolutely no joint pain so it was not long-lived. As far as other long-term effects I am not aware of any. It does suppress the immune system which can contribute to cancer (ha!) but I have no way of knowing if that is true in my case and since we all have cancer now anyways it's likely a moot point.
I am not aware of anything specific to be done to counter-balance the effects of a steroid. Hopefully someone else will have some ideas.
Cheers!
Maggie
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- March 11, 2016 at 6:46 pm
This column by a great melanoma doctor answers a lot of questions about steroid use in melanoma:
http://melanomainternational.org/2016/03/march-7-2016-side-effect-management
Check it out..it helped me
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- March 11, 2016 at 6:46 pm
This column by a great melanoma doctor answers a lot of questions about steroid use in melanoma:
http://melanomainternational.org/2016/03/march-7-2016-side-effect-management
Check it out..it helped me
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- March 11, 2016 at 6:46 pm
This column by a great melanoma doctor answers a lot of questions about steroid use in melanoma:
http://melanomainternational.org/2016/03/march-7-2016-side-effect-management
Check it out..it helped me
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- March 12, 2016 at 12:13 am
Maggie, fabulous to hear that 20 years later all is well! Sounds like the side effects subsided in time.
Not sure if I have Cushings syndrome but my face is definitely bloated & feels a bit "rubbery" … could be my imagination but I doubt it ๐
Thanks for sharing –
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- March 12, 2016 at 12:13 am
Maggie, fabulous to hear that 20 years later all is well! Sounds like the side effects subsided in time.
Not sure if I have Cushings syndrome but my face is definitely bloated & feels a bit "rubbery" … could be my imagination but I doubt it ๐
Thanks for sharing –
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- March 12, 2016 at 12:13 am
Maggie, fabulous to hear that 20 years later all is well! Sounds like the side effects subsided in time.
Not sure if I have Cushings syndrome but my face is definitely bloated & feels a bit "rubbery" … could be my imagination but I doubt it ๐
Thanks for sharing –
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- March 11, 2016 at 1:05 am
Hi Maria,
I was on Prednisone (ranging from 10-40mg/day) for one year and 3 months when I was 30-31 (20 years ago). This was for an unrelated diagnosis (Meniere's disease). Side effects while I was on Prednisone were: A round/fat face (Cushings syndrome), insomnia, muscle weakness (hard to climb stairs), high agitation/aggression, big drop in IQ points (due to lack of sleep I presume). After I stopped prednisone, all of those symptoms went away. BUT a new one started: Extreme joint pain. Every single joint in my body would hurt when I woke up in the morning. It would steadily improve during the day but if I was still for too long, it would hurt to move again. So every morning was agony. This pain gradually improved until the one-year mark when I no longer had joint pain. Prior to being on Prednisone, and while taking it, I jogged every morning. After stopping prednisone I stopped jogging as it was just too painful. But here I am, 20 years later, with absolutely no joint pain so it was not long-lived. As far as other long-term effects I am not aware of any. It does suppress the immune system which can contribute to cancer (ha!) but I have no way of knowing if that is true in my case and since we all have cancer now anyways it's likely a moot point.
I am not aware of anything specific to be done to counter-balance the effects of a steroid. Hopefully someone else will have some ideas.
Cheers!
Maggie
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