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- April 25, 2018 at 10:33 pm
I’ve spent a lot of time reading through posts on here and figured it was about time I started being a contributor and utilizing all of you as the wonderful resources that you are!
I was originally diagnosed with melanoma in summer of 2014. It was located on the left superior helix of my ear. Fast forward almost 4 years later and I was diagnosed with a local reoccurrence in February. I had a WLE and SNB completed on 3/5. Margins and nodes came back clean. Margin however was extremely slim. It has been staged at a IIIB because of current characteristics as well has the primary. For everyone at OSU’s Wexner Medical Center it would normally be a no brainer for me to start Opdivo. The complication is that I’m currently pregnant. 25 weeks along.
The oncologists at The James (OSU) suggested treating it as a primary and “watching and waiting” and completing full scans after the baby is born. They are hesitant to go forward with Opdivo after the baby is born because they think 6 months after diagnosis the benefits may be strongly diminished and the side effects may outweigh the benefits- as there isnt a whole lot of data out there where someone delayed treatment for so long.
I didn’t feel quite right about this and my dermatologist seemed to share my hesitation. I had a second opinion with Dr. Tarhini at The Cleveland Clinic and he suggested definitely still completing the Opdivo treatment after the baby is born. He went as far as to even ask if I was committed to continuing the pregnancy. He also said that if I completed the treatment he would even feel comfortable with having a 2nd pregnancy 2-3 years down the road.
I didn’t want to go “fishing” for a contradictory opinion but had a feeling I would get one. I was hoping he would agree as the thought of starting Opdivo 4 weeks after having a baby is quite scary to me.
I guess what I’m really looking for is-
-Has anyone experienced positive or negative effects after delayed treatment with Opdivo or Keytruda?
-Insight into real life side effects experience with Opdivo.
-Experience with a Stage III or IV Melanoma during pregnancy. Did you have multiple reoccurrences? Did you have any subsequent pregnancies?
Thank you!
Bri
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- April 26, 2018 at 12:38 am
Hi Bri,
I am also new to this community and have yet to post anything, even though I’ve been reading through all of the posts and information at a furutive pace over these past few weeks.
I don’t have an specific information to share on what you’re asking but I thought it would be nice to know someone in a similar-ish situation.
I live in Columbus and my onc is Dr. Shah at the James. I was diagnosed Stage IV two weeks after my daughter was born February 13, 2018. The team at OSU mobilized quickly to save my life and remove the one large brain tumor I had. I followed that up with SRS and a few weeks ago did my first Opdivo infusion to treat the two smal remaining spots in my lungs.
I’ll let other knowledgeable people chime in with their thoughts since I’m so new to this.
Sending you love, light and wishes for a happy, healthy pregnancy and post-melanoma life!
Amanda
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- April 26, 2018 at 10:29 am
Hey Bri,
I dont have too many treatments of Opdivo under my belt to give you an intelligent answer. I would defer to the more "seasoned" opdivo recipients…
The fatigue factor may not even touch you as just being a mom..can be exhausting…lol
I wish you well.. and hope you find some answers here.. this forum has been a blessing for me.
Dessie
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- May 3, 2018 at 6:50 pm
Hi Amanda-
My sincere sympathy with all that you are going through right now! When Dr. Olencki retires in June I will be transferring over to Dr. Shah as well. I hope that your treatment is working and that your side effects are minimal. Many positive thoughts coming your way!
Bri
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- May 17, 2018 at 3:57 pm
I’m happy to hear you will be moving over to Dr. Shah. She is young, smart and also a brand new mom. I know she has taken a special interest in my case because we have so much in common and I’m sure she will take a special interest in your case as well. For every question we ask, she always has an answer that shows that she has considered all the angles. Another highlight is that she has a close relationship with Dr. Kendra who is fantastic and has been treating Melanoma for a long time. I like the combination of someone who is bright, young and ambitious with someone who is older and more experienced. If you ever want to get in touch, get together or meet someone else experiencing this crazy world of Melanoma as a new mom please reach out to me! My email address is [email protected].
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- April 26, 2018 at 11:08 am
Hi Bri,
Melanoma is never fun, but when combined with all the lovely aspects of bringing another life into yours, it has got to be even more difficult. I am probably the poster-child for part of the question you pose. I was diagnosed as IIIB in 2003, after a cutaneous melanoma was found to my right upper back, along with a positive node to my right axilla. I removed all of that…but there was no treatment for melanoma at that time other than interferon, which I opted not to do as it has been proven to make one quite ill and provides little to no benefit. In 2007, another primary to my left arm, nodes negative. No other treatment…as there still was none. 2009…start watching "something" in my lung. April 2010 a biopsy done via a bronchoscopy determined that it was melanoma and I was now Stage IV. Scans of the rest of the body were clear, but MRI of the brain showed a met. Right upper lobe of lung removed. Stereotactic radiation to the brain met. Tried desperately to find treatment. Ipi was in trials for which I did not qualify because after those procedures, I had no measureable disease. In October 2010, melanoma to my tonsil. Surgical removal again. In December, I finally found a nivo (Opdivo) trial that allowed NED folks in. I participated in that trial for 2 1/2 years. I was given nivo every 2 weeks for 6 months, then every 3 months for 2 additional years. It was not fun. I had fatigue, rashes, joint pain, wheezing episodes, and mouth ulcers. Still, I continued to run (not as far or as fast as I had been…but still!!!), work, and take care of my then 10 and 12 year olds, even though I had to travel from Chattanooga to Tampa for my care. Melanoma and its treatment miseries are not things I would wish on anyone. BUT…it can be done!!! I missed only 3 days of work during those years. My last treatment was in June of 2013. I remain NED. And as if the diagnosis and treatment were not bad enough…melanoma doesn't play nice or by any rules. It tends to play even less well in young women and with pregnancy. Treatment decisions are very personal. However, were I in your shoes, I would seek treatment as soon as your new little person has popped out!!! I would want to make sure I did everything I possibly could to keep me around to see all of his/her amazing smiles and crazy adventures.
Here is a primer re melanoma care that may be helpful:
There is a great deal of additional info on my blog if you are interested…just use the search bubble in the left upper corner. Ask more questions as you need, the peeps here are incredibly wise and supportive. I wish you my best. celeste
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- May 3, 2018 at 6:55 pm
Thank you so much for sharing! I pulled up your blog to go through as well. Your story is so inspiring and truly made me feel so positive. Positive thoughts for a continued life of NED for you!
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- April 27, 2018 at 2:53 pm
I'm with Celeste… I'd want that treatment to start as soon as my new little life popped into this world. That will most likely mean bottle feeding… but hey… small price to pay. I'm curious why the docs would think that waiting 6 months to treat makes things "strongly diminished". There are many patients whom have had to wait for any kind of systemic treatment post stage III diagnosis, and what of those of us for whom there was no option to begin Keytruda or Opdivo until after its FDA approval? I had brain and lung mets… began Yervoy right away, but because the brain mets wouldn't cut me some slack and stop cropping up at an "uncontrolled" rate, I couldn't get into trials. Sooooooo… wait I did. I wasn't on Keytruda until nearly 18 months after completing a "useless" 4 rounds of Yervoy. I quote "useless", because it did nothing to halt my personal melanoma… not that the drug itself is "useless", as I know a couple of patients who are alive over 5 years out from successful treatment with that drug only. But I digress…… almost 18 months of "waiting" for Keytruda immuno treatment to begin, and it was indeed, very effective for me. A six month wait seems as though it would have little to no effect. I'd have to question their exact concerns and wonder what they're basing this opinion on.
As for real life side effect experiences with Opdivo or Keytruda…. that is a WIDE OPEN field which would be completely unpredictable for you personally. You may soar through like Wonder Woman and not miss a beat in midnight feedings….. or you may have a pile of issues of your own and rely on a strong support system of friends and family for help with both yourself and baby to be! On the bright side… after baby is born, you'll be able to get a full compliment of scans, which should make the "go or wait" question about the start of Opdivo somewhat more clear. You're in a pickle of a situation, with no easy answers. Continued strength to you for the ups and downs of the mental ride you've been unwillingly sent upon.
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- April 28, 2018 at 1:16 am
Hi Bri,
We have very similar stories. You can read mine fully by looking at my profile. Long story short, I was 20 weeks pregnant when diagnosed with metastatic melanoma. It was so tough to know what to do. Here’s what I chose (much was against the advice of my docs at Mayo):
No PET….only MRIs w/o contrast.
Bi-monthly ultrasounds.
Induction at 36 weeks.
Full PET after my son was born. I wasn’t sure if I’d advanced to Stage IV, but I had. Mets = lung, subcutaneous, spine, and all over my liver.
My doctors put my on traditional chemotherapy 3 weeks after my son was born, which I failed miserably. I switched my care to MD Anderson and went on Ipi/Nivo. I made it through 3/4 rounds. I followed up with 2 years of Opdivo monotheraphy. I have been NED since November 2015.
My son is 3 and my daughter is now 5. My husband and I will celebrate 10 years together this summer. Last spring I received my MEd. Life is good.
You can get through this! Please feel free to email me!
Best wishes,
Ashley
P.S. Hope for Two is an amazing resource! Check it out!
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- April 28, 2018 at 2:13 pm
Hi Ashley, I am not the original poster but I wanted to respond because your story gave me a lot of hope. After an entire lifetime of having moles removed (the first one removed was Clark’s level 4 at the age of 8, but all the rest have been Clark’s level 1), I was diagnosed stage 4 two weeks after delivering my daughter in February. They removed the mass in my brain and I started Opdivo two weeks ago to treat the two spots in my lungs. I’m tremendously hopeful to get to where you are in 3 years from now. Thank you so much for sharing your story!
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- April 28, 2018 at 1:56 am
I would not regard this as a primary. Your baby needs to not just when it is born, but in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years. I would deliver the baby at 35-36 weeks, then start Nivolumab +/- Ipilimumab (or +/- one of the IDO inhibitors) with minimal delay. Out of curiosity, what is your BRAF mutation status? I would request that they send your tissue for Tumor Mutational Burden and PD-L1 expression, so that you have the maximum amount of information to make an informed decision with. Have your baby, but play long-ball and start immunotherapy ASAP. That would be my humble recommendation.
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- May 3, 2018 at 6:37 pm
Thank you! I actually met with my OB today and she said she would be fully on board with delivering at 36 weeks. I have an oncology appt on Tuesday with my primary med onc and surg onc and will be discussing the opinion I got in Cleveland and letting them know I am more comfortable moving forward with his decision. My BRAF status is negative. I am going to ask them to anazlyze the tissue for more information and will include that. The high risk OB encouraged me to also ask to see if I have an estrogen receptor gene.
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