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Pigment regrowth next to punch biopsy site dysplastic nevus

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    mannines
    Participant
      Hello all

      Thanks for ongoing advice on this pesky atypical mole.

      Trail below but short story is displastic nevus reviewed by x2 derms who said mild / mild – moderate displaysia. The first report said clear margins.

      I have been keeping an eye on the biopsy site and noticed a darkish spot next to (not within) the biopsy site. I thought it was just healing from the stitches but it is in fact pigment. This has grown quickly (since biopsy 2 December) and is probably 2mm which is as big as original mole but lighter in colour.

      I have an apt Tues to reexcise as derm said this is unusual. Any thoughts/ advice here please?

      Any questions I should ask at my apt. I know regrowth happens but in the space of 3 weeks?

      Many thanks

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      Hi all – copy and paste from last post. Newest to oldest below. Im a little confused and more concerned than before

      Many thabks.

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      Re: Help interpreting pathology report – atypical mole (Att… mannines – (12/25/2016 – 10:38pm)
      Hi Janner/all – advice needed am more worried than before.

      In my first post I mentioned that I was going to get a 2nd opinion from a derm as I found the initial pathology report for my dysplastic nevus to be a little vague.

      Well that derm called me xmas eve (great timing) to say that the team of specialists on review felt that the mole was mild / moderate (I had spoken to the first pathologist myself who said it was mild).

      My original path report apparently didnt mention any cellular atypia which they found on review.

      He also said that they were going to run some new slides as ‘sometimes when we look deeper we find some worrying things’. Added that if it was on his arm he would want it cut out.

      I am now obviously a bit concerned as to why they would a) upgrade and level of atypia and b) think they needed to run further tests. Do you know what these would be? The clinic where I had the punch biopsy done said no further excision is required.

      I tend to suffer from health anxiety so I realise I’m probably blowing this out of proportion but looking for any advice here.

      Many thanks

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      Re: Help interpreting pathology report – atypical mole (Att… Janner – (12/14/2016 – 9:11am)
      There is nothing about this path report that screams worrisome to me. If I had clean margins (like this one does), I’d just move on. Not all pathologists classify atypical moles as mild, moderate or severe and that doesn’t mean the report is lacking if it doesn’t. (It makes it easier for us but we’re not really the audience this pathologist is writing for). The description itself usually indicates more worrisome architecture or cellular atypia and this one specifically rules out typical melanoma features. (I am not a medical person or pathologist).

      http://www.MelanomaResources.info

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      Re: Help interpreting pathology report – atypical mole (Att… mannines – (12/15/2016 – 8:11am)
      Many thanks for taking the time to reply Janner – much appreciated
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      Re: Help interpreting pathology report – atypical mole (Att… Janner – (12/14/2016 – 9:11am)
      There is nothing about this path report that screams worrisome to me. If I had clean margins (like this one does), I’d just move on. Not all pathologists classify atypical moles as mild, moderate or severe and that doesn’t mean the report is lacking if it doesn’t. (It makes it easier for us but we’re not really the audience this pathologist is writing for). The description itself usually indicates more worrisome architecture or cellular atypia and this one specifically rules out typical melanoma features. (I am not a medical person or pathologist).

      http://www.MelanomaResources.info

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      Re: Help interpreting pathology report – atypical mole (Att… mannines – (12/15/2016 – 8:11am)
      Many thanks for taking the time to reply Janner – much appreciated

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      Hello all

      thank you in advance if you are able to help.

      I had a mole biopsied and the pathology report didn’t state whether it was mild, moderate or severely dysplastic. It was a punch biopsy of a 2mm mole with 1mm margins.

      The clinic said all margins were clear and that no further excision is required, however, I’m seeking a second option (from this forum and another dr) as the report was vague. Any interpretation of the report would be much appreciated.

      REPORT:
      Skin with increased pigmentation of tthe basal cell layer and a junctional melanocytic proliferation composed of nested groups along the tips of elongated and variably fused rete ridges. There is also lamellar fibroplaysia, mild chronic inflammation, pigment incontinence and a few banal melanocytes in the upper dermis.. There is no confluence, mitototic figures or pagetoid scatter seen.

      Conclusion: Compound melanocytic naevus, dysplastic

      This is a fantastic forum and source of information and comfort which I have been reading over the past few weeks.

      Any advice appreciated and I will update also with 2nd opinion from Dr when I get it. I know aypical moles are contentious in terms of their ability to turn into melanoma and also that there is no general consensus on treatment so I’m finding it all a bit ‘grey’…

      Best wishes to everyone here

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      Re: Conflicting advice on dysplastic nevus – confused debwray – (12/27/2016 – 1:08pm)
      Hi,

      Dysplasic naevus by definition have some abnormal /unusual features. They can evolve – and MM can develop within a dysplasic naevus which happened in my case – but only in a small part of it.

      HavIng said all that- you have asked for a second opinion .The reports seem to tally so far but are expressed slightly differently. I’m guessing that the second lab is doing the same as they did for me and are running some further stains that might possibly indicate melanoma cells. Given that the lesion has already been removed with clear margins – you are in a good place. In the rather unlikely case that the stains were positive then you would probably be advised to have further margins..but the first level of tests were OK ,so you just need to sit tight unless you are told further action is needed.

      If it is so hard to identify- chances are all will be well as it has been caught early.

      Wishingyou well

      Deb

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      Re: Conflicting advice on dysplastic nevus – confused Janner – (12/27/2016 – 5:07pm)
      You asked for a second opinion and you got it. If you asked for a third opinion, it would likely differ. Pathology is an art as much as it is a science and you are dependent on the person who reads and “interprets” what they see.

      The 2nd lab interprets things differently – more cellular atypia. They are just going to do their own analysis. I would absolutely NOT WORRY about any of this. This isn’t going to come back as melanoma. And it hardlly matters how much atypia exists in the grand scheme of things. It’s removed. I’ve had 3 melanoma primaries and I don’t even give a second thought to any dysplastic moles removed if they have clean margins. Don’t let this get to you because it isn’t worth the angst!

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        debwray
        Participant

          Hi,

          Did you get anything of significance from the further tests the second opinion lab was going to run ?

          Try and relax. It will be gone by Tues in any case , is very small and worrying won't change things.

          Try to distract yourself- stay off the internet- do some fun things you love and enjoy  in the meantime. Easier said than done- I know .

          Best wishes

          Deb

           

            mannines
            Participant
              Hi Deb – from the further tests I just received a txt msg confirming dysplastic nevus with mild to moderate dysplasia. Txt also said no urgency to remove and it was only when I reported the pigment regrowth that they moved my apt up from Feb to next week.

              Is it most likely then that the excision biopsy will be the same? Have you heard of pigment regrowth occurring so quickly before and next to (not within) the site?

              Many thanks

              mannines
              Participant
                Hi Deb – from the further tests I just received a txt msg confirming dysplastic nevus with mild to moderate dysplasia. Txt also said no urgency to remove and it was only when I reported the pigment regrowth that they moved my apt up from Feb to next week.

                Is it most likely then that the excision biopsy will be the same? Have you heard of pigment regrowth occurring so quickly before and next to (not within) the site?

                Many thanks

                mannines
                Participant
                  Hi Deb – from the further tests I just received a txt msg confirming dysplastic nevus with mild to moderate dysplasia. Txt also said no urgency to remove and it was only when I reported the pigment regrowth that they moved my apt up from Feb to next week.

                  Is it most likely then that the excision biopsy will be the same? Have you heard of pigment regrowth occurring so quickly before and next to (not within) the site?

                  Many thanks

                debwray
                Participant

                  Hi,

                  Did you get anything of significance from the further tests the second opinion lab was going to run ?

                  Try and relax. It will be gone by Tues in any case , is very small and worrying won't change things.

                  Try to distract yourself- stay off the internet- do some fun things you love and enjoy  in the meantime. Easier said than done- I know .

                  Best wishes

                  Deb

                   

                  debwray
                  Participant

                    Hi,

                    Did you get anything of significance from the further tests the second opinion lab was going to run ?

                    Try and relax. It will be gone by Tues in any case , is very small and worrying won't change things.

                    Try to distract yourself- stay off the internet- do some fun things you love and enjoy  in the meantime. Easier said than done- I know .

                    Best wishes

                    Deb

                     

                    Janner
                    Participant

                      At least according to my pathologists, punches don't always guarantee margins.  Regrowth happens and is rarely any different type of cells than the original.  Just get it excised and move on.  It's an inconvenience but not overly concerning.  That's my take.

                      Janner
                      Participant

                        At least according to my pathologists, punches don't always guarantee margins.  Regrowth happens and is rarely any different type of cells than the original.  Just get it excised and move on.  It's an inconvenience but not overly concerning.  That's my take.

                          mannines
                          Participant
                            Many thanks Janner. My concern was how quickly this has happened and because it was technically in a different spot although very close to the biopsy site. I guess biopsy on excision will tell me all we beed to know?

                            Really appreciate your feedback.

                            mannines
                            Participant
                              Many thanks Janner. My concern was how quickly this has happened and because it was technically in a different spot although very close to the biopsy site. I guess biopsy on excision will tell me all we beed to know?

                              Really appreciate your feedback.

                              mannines
                              Participant
                                Many thanks Janner. My concern was how quickly this has happened and because it was technically in a different spot although very close to the biopsy site. I guess biopsy on excision will tell me all we beed to know?

                                Really appreciate your feedback.

                                mannines
                                Participant
                                  Final update. Had a WLE on the biopsy plus the newly emerged pigment. My path results were no residual dysplastic nevus cells found – all clear.

                                  I can only assume that the new pigment was just that and not a proliferation of the original dysplastic mole.

                                  I have 4 stitches and a decent scar (I’d say the derm was VERY conservative with his margins) but am happy and feel blessed with a new and stronger awareness about my skin moving forward.

                                  Thanks to Janner and Deb for your advice and responses. Best wishes to everyone here ๐Ÿ™‚

                                  mannines
                                  Participant
                                    Final update. Had a WLE on the biopsy plus the newly emerged pigment. My path results were no residual dysplastic nevus cells found – all clear.

                                    I can only assume that the new pigment was just that and not a proliferation of the original dysplastic mole.

                                    I have 4 stitches and a decent scar (I’d say the derm was VERY conservative with his margins) but am happy and feel blessed with a new and stronger awareness about my skin moving forward.

                                    Thanks to Janner and Deb for your advice and responses. Best wishes to everyone here ๐Ÿ™‚

                                    mannines
                                    Participant
                                      Final update. Had a WLE on the biopsy plus the newly emerged pigment. My path results were no residual dysplastic nevus cells found – all clear.

                                      I can only assume that the new pigment was just that and not a proliferation of the original dysplastic mole.

                                      I have 4 stitches and a decent scar (I’d say the derm was VERY conservative with his margins) but am happy and feel blessed with a new and stronger awareness about my skin moving forward.

                                      Thanks to Janner and Deb for your advice and responses. Best wishes to everyone here ๐Ÿ™‚

                                    Janner
                                    Participant

                                      At least according to my pathologists, punches don't always guarantee margins.  Regrowth happens and is rarely any different type of cells than the original.  Just get it excised and move on.  It's an inconvenience but not overly concerning.  That's my take.

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