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Resistance to Keytruda? Anyone experienced it?

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    MELK
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      I had melanoma on mt liver but then it went into my bone marrow. I was put on Keytruda and had a few blood transfusions and according to my blood results the Keytruda killed the cancer in my bone marrow. It saved my life. I had three infusions all up but then got the side effect of liver autoimmune disease, where my own body was attacking my liver, inflamming it and blocking the bile duct and giving me lots of stomach aches. I was put on steroids and had a two week break from the Keytruda.
      Two weeks after going back on the Keytruda, I started getting pain in my back. A CT scan showed new tumors in my spine, cervical and thoracic.
      My Oncologist says the cancer has become resistant to the Keytruda, in other words the cancer is blocking my T cells from killing them.
      I am wondering if anyone has had similar experience. I had another Keytruda infusion today as I want to give it a couple more goes, bug i am also thinking i could ask about other PD 1 drugs.

      Being positive for everyone out there
      Mel

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        Mat
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          Mel, sorry to hear.  I progressed on Keytruda after about 6 mos of stability and minor reduction.  I was able to return to Braf-Mek (my first Stage IV treatment) for a time in order to make a treatment decision.  During that time I looked at clinical trials (including TIL, which didn't work out for me at the time).  I'm now in the nivo only phase of ipi-nivo (which wasn't available when I progressed on Keytruda).  I'm stable based on scans at week 11.  I'm hoping for continuing stability or better.  If that doesn't work out, I'd likely repeat the same process–look at clinical trials and/or attempt another run on Braf-Mek.  In terms of clinical trials, which I haven't reviewed for a few months, aside from TIL, there is OX-40 and ADC (a targeted chemo), among others. Celeste and Ed have posted about these.  Not generating as much excitement as PD-1, but could be used as bridge treatments.  One additional point–I don't believe that switching from Keytruda to nivo as a single agent is a good solution based on onc discussions.  That said, continuing with Keytruda (which may still be providing a clinical benefit)–pending a change in treatment–should be weighed against your side effects.  Lastly, in onc discussions, I've heard that they've had some limited success with traditional chemo following PD-1–not curative, but as another bridge.

          Mat
          Participant

            Mel, sorry to hear.  I progressed on Keytruda after about 6 mos of stability and minor reduction.  I was able to return to Braf-Mek (my first Stage IV treatment) for a time in order to make a treatment decision.  During that time I looked at clinical trials (including TIL, which didn't work out for me at the time).  I'm now in the nivo only phase of ipi-nivo (which wasn't available when I progressed on Keytruda).  I'm stable based on scans at week 11.  I'm hoping for continuing stability or better.  If that doesn't work out, I'd likely repeat the same process–look at clinical trials and/or attempt another run on Braf-Mek.  In terms of clinical trials, which I haven't reviewed for a few months, aside from TIL, there is OX-40 and ADC (a targeted chemo), among others. Celeste and Ed have posted about these.  Not generating as much excitement as PD-1, but could be used as bridge treatments.  One additional point–I don't believe that switching from Keytruda to nivo as a single agent is a good solution based on onc discussions.  That said, continuing with Keytruda (which may still be providing a clinical benefit)–pending a change in treatment–should be weighed against your side effects.  Lastly, in onc discussions, I've heard that they've had some limited success with traditional chemo following PD-1–not curative, but as another bridge.

            Mat
            Participant

              Mel, sorry to hear.  I progressed on Keytruda after about 6 mos of stability and minor reduction.  I was able to return to Braf-Mek (my first Stage IV treatment) for a time in order to make a treatment decision.  During that time I looked at clinical trials (including TIL, which didn't work out for me at the time).  I'm now in the nivo only phase of ipi-nivo (which wasn't available when I progressed on Keytruda).  I'm stable based on scans at week 11.  I'm hoping for continuing stability or better.  If that doesn't work out, I'd likely repeat the same process–look at clinical trials and/or attempt another run on Braf-Mek.  In terms of clinical trials, which I haven't reviewed for a few months, aside from TIL, there is OX-40 and ADC (a targeted chemo), among others. Celeste and Ed have posted about these.  Not generating as much excitement as PD-1, but could be used as bridge treatments.  One additional point–I don't believe that switching from Keytruda to nivo as a single agent is a good solution based on onc discussions.  That said, continuing with Keytruda (which may still be providing a clinical benefit)–pending a change in treatment–should be weighed against your side effects.  Lastly, in onc discussions, I've heard that they've had some limited success with traditional chemo following PD-1–not curative, but as another bridge.

                JuTMSY4
                Participant

                  So you've effectively switched from Keytruda to Opdivo?  That's great – I'm glad to see people are having results with the different drugs.  Goes to show they're not the same.  

                  Mat
                  Participant

                    No.  I moved on to ipi-nivo.  I believe that the prevailing view is that nivo and Keytruda are the same or very close.  However, ipi-Keytruda is not an FDA approved combination.  Therefore, to do ipi-PD-1, one needs to do nivo (Opdivo).

                    MELK
                    Participant
                      Hi Mat, thanks for that. Yea i got told Keytruda plus ipi not funded here, (australia) so that will be a self funded option
                      MELK
                      Participant
                        Hi Mat, thanks for that. Yea i got told Keytruda plus ipi not funded here, (australia) so that will be a self funded option
                        MELK
                        Participant
                          Hi Mat, thanks for that. Yea i got told Keytruda plus ipi not funded here, (australia) so that will be a self funded option
                          MELK
                          Participant
                            Hi Mat, thanks for that. Yea i got told Keytruda plus ipi not funded here, (australia) so that will be a self funded option
                            MELK
                            Participant
                              Hi Mat, thanks for that. Yea i got told Keytruda plus ipi not funded here, (australia) so that will be a self funded option
                              MELK
                              Participant
                                Hi Mat, thanks for that. Yea i got told Keytruda plus ipi not funded here, (australia) so that will be a self funded option
                                Mat
                                Participant

                                  No.  I moved on to ipi-nivo.  I believe that the prevailing view is that nivo and Keytruda are the same or very close.  However, ipi-Keytruda is not an FDA approved combination.  Therefore, to do ipi-PD-1, one needs to do nivo (Opdivo).

                                  Mat
                                  Participant

                                    No.  I moved on to ipi-nivo.  I believe that the prevailing view is that nivo and Keytruda are the same or very close.  However, ipi-Keytruda is not an FDA approved combination.  Therefore, to do ipi-PD-1, one needs to do nivo (Opdivo).

                                    JuTMSY4
                                    Participant

                                      So you've effectively switched from Keytruda to Opdivo?  That's great – I'm glad to see people are having results with the different drugs.  Goes to show they're not the same.  

                                      JuTMSY4
                                      Participant

                                        So you've effectively switched from Keytruda to Opdivo?  That's great – I'm glad to see people are having results with the different drugs.  Goes to show they're not the same.  

                                        MELK
                                        Participant
                                          Thanks Mat, what you say makes sense. I saw my oncologist today and he is suggesting going back onto the Braf combo, which was also my first drug taken before I got resistant.
                                          Although, it might just be to give some extra time.
                                          I have opted to stay on Keytruda, although i have two weeks to decide. I have just finished radiotherapy and was put on 8mg Dexmethazone. I will be tapering those down now and the next two weeks blood tests will reveal whether i am still getting liver auto immune from Keytruda and if so, I have to stop Keytruda because auto immune of liver would kill me before the cancer!
                                          How long were you on the Braf Mek for as a bridge.
                                          If i go back on them, i will have to pay for them, but i will do half the dose i was originally on. Scary though, cos when i became resistant geez the cancer came with a vengeance!
                                          Mel
                                          MELK
                                          Participant
                                            Thanks Mat, what you say makes sense. I saw my oncologist today and he is suggesting going back onto the Braf combo, which was also my first drug taken before I got resistant.
                                            Although, it might just be to give some extra time.
                                            I have opted to stay on Keytruda, although i have two weeks to decide. I have just finished radiotherapy and was put on 8mg Dexmethazone. I will be tapering those down now and the next two weeks blood tests will reveal whether i am still getting liver auto immune from Keytruda and if so, I have to stop Keytruda because auto immune of liver would kill me before the cancer!
                                            How long were you on the Braf Mek for as a bridge.
                                            If i go back on them, i will have to pay for them, but i will do half the dose i was originally on. Scary though, cos when i became resistant geez the cancer came with a vengeance!
                                            Mel
                                            MELK
                                            Participant
                                              Thanks Mat, what you say makes sense. I saw my oncologist today and he is suggesting going back onto the Braf combo, which was also my first drug taken before I got resistant.
                                              Although, it might just be to give some extra time.
                                              I have opted to stay on Keytruda, although i have two weeks to decide. I have just finished radiotherapy and was put on 8mg Dexmethazone. I will be tapering those down now and the next two weeks blood tests will reveal whether i am still getting liver auto immune from Keytruda and if so, I have to stop Keytruda because auto immune of liver would kill me before the cancer!
                                              How long were you on the Braf Mek for as a bridge.
                                              If i go back on them, i will have to pay for them, but i will do half the dose i was originally on. Scary though, cos when i became resistant geez the cancer came with a vengeance!
                                              Mel
                                            ed williams
                                            Participant

                                              Hi Mel, just wanted to add to what Mat has already given you. There is a Onclive series that has several very good videos about Melanoma and it kind of covers A to Z with some examples of what if this or what if your patients is showing that. Here is a link to first one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeJp_TKiv54   . I hope you can find some of the answers to what you are looking for. A second video talks about the future and what is looking good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaGfNsG6w4   . I have heard Weber talk about patients switching from one Pd-1 drug to another and getting response. Wishing you the best!!!! Ed

                                              ed williams
                                              Participant

                                                Hi Mel, just wanted to add to what Mat has already given you. There is a Onclive series that has several very good videos about Melanoma and it kind of covers A to Z with some examples of what if this or what if your patients is showing that. Here is a link to first one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeJp_TKiv54   . I hope you can find some of the answers to what you are looking for. A second video talks about the future and what is looking good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaGfNsG6w4   . I have heard Weber talk about patients switching from one Pd-1 drug to another and getting response. Wishing you the best!!!! Ed

                                                ed williams
                                                Participant

                                                  Hi Mel, just wanted to add to what Mat has already given you. There is a Onclive series that has several very good videos about Melanoma and it kind of covers A to Z with some examples of what if this or what if your patients is showing that. Here is a link to first one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeJp_TKiv54   . I hope you can find some of the answers to what you are looking for. A second video talks about the future and what is looking good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaGfNsG6w4   . I have heard Weber talk about patients switching from one Pd-1 drug to another and getting response. Wishing you the best!!!! Ed

                                                    MELK
                                                    Participant
                                                      Thanks Ed
                                                      MELK
                                                      Participant
                                                        Thanks Ed
                                                        MELK
                                                        Participant
                                                          Thanks Ed
                                                        Polymath
                                                        Participant

                                                          Hi Mel,

                                                          It's good you had some response to Keytruda, but the fact you progressed must not be that unusual.  For many, including me, I was a non-responder in the first place.  Going to Nivo (Opdivo) seems like a sideways move since the two drugs work in a very similar pathway though some here may disagree.  Consider the ipi/nivo combo for a more aggressive approach if available.  For me, I responded to neither ipi, or pembro, but together, and with some targeted radiation treatment I have shown the first signs of at least a partial systemic response.  If you can tolerate any side-effects that may emerge from the combo, it seems like a natural next step in treatment.  Best to you in the battle.

                                                          Gary

                                                          Polymath
                                                          Participant

                                                            Hi Mel,

                                                            It's good you had some response to Keytruda, but the fact you progressed must not be that unusual.  For many, including me, I was a non-responder in the first place.  Going to Nivo (Opdivo) seems like a sideways move since the two drugs work in a very similar pathway though some here may disagree.  Consider the ipi/nivo combo for a more aggressive approach if available.  For me, I responded to neither ipi, or pembro, but together, and with some targeted radiation treatment I have shown the first signs of at least a partial systemic response.  If you can tolerate any side-effects that may emerge from the combo, it seems like a natural next step in treatment.  Best to you in the battle.

                                                            Gary

                                                            Polymath
                                                            Participant

                                                              Hi Mel,

                                                              It's good you had some response to Keytruda, but the fact you progressed must not be that unusual.  For many, including me, I was a non-responder in the first place.  Going to Nivo (Opdivo) seems like a sideways move since the two drugs work in a very similar pathway though some here may disagree.  Consider the ipi/nivo combo for a more aggressive approach if available.  For me, I responded to neither ipi, or pembro, but together, and with some targeted radiation treatment I have shown the first signs of at least a partial systemic response.  If you can tolerate any side-effects that may emerge from the combo, it seems like a natural next step in treatment.  Best to you in the battle.

                                                              Gary

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