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Round 1 – Coming out swinging

Forums General Melanoma Community Round 1 – Coming out swinging

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    Marburg
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      Hello, new poster, old visitor , original diagnosis State 1 – to 3 July 2005. Stage IV after biopsy of lump under skin in left thigh (same location exactly in wide local excision scar 14 years earlier). Wondering with nerves what to expect as my treatment ipi/novo (sp?) Round 1 is scheduled for beginning of February. And preparation suggestions for the side effects or pre-infusion hints. I really have not even got a conversation with my treating oncologist as I am travelling for treatment and only saw him once prior to scans. PET revealed 2 lesions of 2cm in liver observed (booo !!) Yeah I am still in the phase of ‘I’ll come out swinging in round 1, but honestly don’t want to let my husband know I am scared to …..well, you guys know the rest. Just knowing maybe someone will answer is my hope for today. Small steps, big hope. All the best to everyone. I’ve seen this board grow for 15 years and life is GOOD.
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        JudiAU
        Participant
          Bubbles has great technical information on her blog. It is very helpful to identify the common side effects so you know what to watch for. Some people really suffer with the drugs; other have more minor side effects. Stick around for the success stories!
          TarlieT
          Participant
            Hi Marburg,

            I’m so sorry to hear the disease progressed to Stage IV, and I can relate to the fear. Thankfully we are in a different era of melanoma treatment than in the early 2000s. I am currently on ipi/nivo, and have primarily had GI side effects plus some fatigue. The GI stuff was relatively light after the first treatment, but then became full-blown enteritis after the second one. This made it tough to eat or drink, and I ended up losing quite a bit of weight. But the good news is this is all manageable with medication, so one of my lessons learned is: let your team know early that you’re experiencing any side effects, even seemingly minor ones (light nausea, some loose stool, etc.), so that they can address them as quickly as possible. I ended up receiving infliximab to calm down the immune response that was causing the crazy GI inflammation, along with a three doses a day of a steroid called budesonide. I was out for about two weeks, but am now back to working from home and going into the office for a few hours a day.

            I’m sure your team is on top of this but: since you’re traveling for treatment, I think it’s important that whoever your go-to person back home is be familiar with management of ipi/nivo side effects. Showing up at an ER or urgent care complaining of nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea means something very different for someone receiving immunotherapy–but not all providers are aware of this. If you don’t have someone local who’s familiar with ipi/nivo, I think it’s important to ensure open and efficient lines of communication with your main oncologist.

            One practical suggestion: in case you do have GI trouble (and many people don’t, of course!) it can be good to start thinking about easy-to-tolerate foods you like that are healthy (or at least get you enough calories). If you like smoothies, those can be a great way to pack nutrients and calories into an easier-to-swallow bundle. I’ve also found myself eating a lot of much simpler foods than I’m used to–mashed potatoes, crackers, PB&J, etc.

            Also, I recommend being kind to yourself. I have spent so much time trying to will myself to feel better, when I need to just let my body and the treatment do their thing.

            These are just my (non-professional, obviously) two cents! I’ll let you know if anything else comes to mind.

            Warmly,
            Tarlie

              tkoss
              Participant
                my question Tarlie and other. I am stage 3c, in sentinel lymph nodes but no other locations. I have read you and others are doing ipi/nivo. I have been prescribed nivo only by one onc and pembi only by another. IOW neither prescribed combo therapy. I assume that is both the most current treatment regime but also recognizes little improvements with monotherapies and combi or ipi has side effects.

                that is my thoughts as I ponder why my onc prescribes nivo only and not combo.

                what are you thoughts?

                Bubbles
                Participant
                  Tarlie is Stage IV. The ipi/nivo combo is FDA approved for folks with Stage IV melanoma. It has not been approved for Stage III folks – mostly because it has not been studied in Stage III patients and therefore their outcomes both in prevention of melanoma and in regard to side effects vs monotherapy with either pembro, nvio, or ipi – though those trials are ongoing.
                  tkoss
                  Participant
                    got it. thanks.

                  Bubbles
                  Participant
                    Hey Marburg,

                    I atually have a very similar history. Also mom of 2. Stage 3b in 2003. With no treatments available back then – watch and wait turned into Stage IV with brain and lung mets in 2010. However, I was lucky to gain entry into a Phase 1 nivolumab (opdivo) trial at that point. I traveled for my care – from Chattanooga, TN to Tampa, FL. So….it’s a lot! But, it’s doable. Most importantly, I’m still here and remain NED for melanoma since my last nivo dose in 2013 with no further treatment.

                    For a general review of current melanoma treatment – including a section on immunotherapy – you might find this post helpful: https://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2017/08/melanoma-intel-primer-for-current.html

                    Side effects are so disperate – one patent to another – it is hard to “prep” for them. You kinda just have to take them as they come. There are tons of reports on side effects and how to deal with them on my blog – the search bubble is your friend. However, generally speaking the most common side effects to immunotherapy (and the reasons we get them) are reviewed here: https://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/10/side-effects-of-nivolumab.html

                    Despite the fact that the post noted is about the side effects to nivo, it remains accurate for pembro or nivo as single agents or the ipi/nivo combo. Granted the side effects can be greater with the combo, due to the bad boy ipi – but the type of side effects expected remain the same. Fatigue, joint pain, and rashes being far and away the most common.

                    Hope this helps. Ask more questions as you have the need. I wish you my best. Celeste

                      tkoss
                      Participant
                        along these same lines: Oncs never performed BRAF test,.They said it doesn’t matter, monotherapy would be the prescription anyway and that TARGETED treatment would only be used if monotherapy failed. When pressed by me to do the test they managed to, shall we say, not to.

                        Does that sound right? I am pretty sure my once is not a melanoma specialist.

                        ed williams
                        Participant
                          Video from last ASCO 2019 on topic of testing for Braf mutation and logic for doing such test, features Dr. Hussein Tawbi of MD Anderson and at end Dr. Jason Luke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=267&v=Eov56UjzO18
                          Bubbles
                          Participant
                            Perfect review of Stage III melanoma treatment approach, Ed!! So, yes – Tkoss! BRAF testing is super important – as is making sure you are being cared for by someone well versed in the care of melanoma. Perhaps your doc should watch that video!!! Though as the melanoma expert notes….often immunotherapy – in the form of nivolumab (Opdivo) or pembrolizumab (Keytruda) are chosen as the first treatment option for Stage III patients – there are BRAF/MEK combo’s that are FDA approved for their treatment as well! Plus, knowing more about your condition is always better! Even if you are getting immunotherapy currently, it is not too late to have your tissue samples tested for BRAF status. You may not choose to make any changes in the care or treatment you seek, but at least you would have a fuller understanding of your status and options. Melanoma is never easy! Hang in there. Celeste
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