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Sentinel lymph node biopsy

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      Newly diagnosed with malignant melanoma by my dermatologist.  She has indicated that I need this Sentinenal lymph node biopsy.  My question to all of you is….does this have to be done right away….or can I delay it for a few months?  Is this biopsy done as part of excision of the malignancy?

      Any advice is greatly appreciated?

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        Polymath
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          Ouch, welcome to the club that no one wants to be a member of.  Others can chime in, but personally I would say the SLNB is standard procedure, and done at the same time as the wide excision of the primary site.  Mine was done under full anesthesia.  The results provide the crucial staging information, that determines future treatment options.  Delaying this important step may or may not ultimately effect a persons overall status, but not knowing is something that likely will cause even more anxiety, and could lead to poor choices in the future.  Like they say, just do it.  Best wishes to you on the journey to NED.

          Gary

          Polymath
          Participant

            Ouch, welcome to the club that no one wants to be a member of.  Others can chime in, but personally I would say the SLNB is standard procedure, and done at the same time as the wide excision of the primary site.  Mine was done under full anesthesia.  The results provide the crucial staging information, that determines future treatment options.  Delaying this important step may or may not ultimately effect a persons overall status, but not knowing is something that likely will cause even more anxiety, and could lead to poor choices in the future.  Like they say, just do it.  Best wishes to you on the journey to NED.

            Gary

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              Participant

                Thank you Gary for the information and advice.  As much as I would like to ignore this so I can enjoy my summer, I know it is smarter to get staged and move forward with treatment.  "Just do it" is great advice!

                Stan

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                  Thank you Gary for the information and advice.  As much as I would like to ignore this so I can enjoy my summer, I know it is smarter to get staged and move forward with treatment.  "Just do it" is great advice!

                  Stan

                  Polymath
                  Participant

                    Hi Stan,

                    I saw in your profile, and your primary is on your back.  They test for the drainage Janner mentioned and locate the correct lymph nodes to biopsy.  I only know about the axilla (armpit) where mine was draining.  The recovery from surgery was (at least for me) a piece of cake, and I never even took an aspirin for pain.  Point is, do what you now know you need to do to get proper staging.  Then expect quick recovery and get on with your Summer, while planning next steps in treatment.  There's great advice on this board, but one thing to remember is to keep on living.

                    Gary

                    Polymath
                    Participant

                      Hi Stan,

                      I saw in your profile, and your primary is on your back.  They test for the drainage Janner mentioned and locate the correct lymph nodes to biopsy.  I only know about the axilla (armpit) where mine was draining.  The recovery from surgery was (at least for me) a piece of cake, and I never even took an aspirin for pain.  Point is, do what you now know you need to do to get proper staging.  Then expect quick recovery and get on with your Summer, while planning next steps in treatment.  There's great advice on this board, but one thing to remember is to keep on living.

                      Gary

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                        Again I thank you Gary for your kind words.  There are so many unknowns for me at this point, and my type A personality struggles with that!  I need to trust in God's plan, and continue living my life.  I'm finding some great support on this board already, so that will make this journey a little less lonely.

                        Stan

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                        Participant

                          Again I thank you Gary for your kind words.  There are so many unknowns for me at this point, and my type A personality struggles with that!  I need to trust in God's plan, and continue living my life.  I'm finding some great support on this board already, so that will make this journey a little less lonely.

                          Stan

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                          Participant

                            Again I thank you Gary for your kind words.  There are so many unknowns for me at this point, and my type A personality struggles with that!  I need to trust in God's plan, and continue living my life.  I'm finding some great support on this board already, so that will make this journey a little less lonely.

                            Stan

                            Polymath
                            Participant

                              Hi Stan,

                              I saw in your profile, and your primary is on your back.  They test for the drainage Janner mentioned and locate the correct lymph nodes to biopsy.  I only know about the axilla (armpit) where mine was draining.  The recovery from surgery was (at least for me) a piece of cake, and I never even took an aspirin for pain.  Point is, do what you now know you need to do to get proper staging.  Then expect quick recovery and get on with your Summer, while planning next steps in treatment.  There's great advice on this board, but one thing to remember is to keep on living.

                              Gary

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                              Participant

                                Thank you Gary for the information and advice.  As much as I would like to ignore this so I can enjoy my summer, I know it is smarter to get staged and move forward with treatment.  "Just do it" is great advice!

                                Stan

                              Polymath
                              Participant

                                Ouch, welcome to the club that no one wants to be a member of.  Others can chime in, but personally I would say the SLNB is standard procedure, and done at the same time as the wide excision of the primary site.  Mine was done under full anesthesia.  The results provide the crucial staging information, that determines future treatment options.  Delaying this important step may or may not ultimately effect a persons overall status, but not knowing is something that likely will cause even more anxiety, and could lead to poor choices in the future.  Like they say, just do it.  Best wishes to you on the journey to NED.

                                Gary

                                jennunicorn
                                Participant

                                  It is done in order to furthur stage you. Your primary tumor was of a thickness that indicated a SLNB is needed to see if the melanoma has metastisized to your lymph nodes. You could wait a couple weeks, but I don't know about months. You want to know now what stage you're at so you know your options as far as treatment and all of that. If it is found in your lymph nodes you will be stage 3. They will also do a full body scan to see if it is in any distant organs. If it is in distant organs, then you'd be stage 4. These are important factors to know and I would not delay for long. 

                                  All the best,

                                  jennunicorn
                                  Participant

                                    It is done in order to furthur stage you. Your primary tumor was of a thickness that indicated a SLNB is needed to see if the melanoma has metastisized to your lymph nodes. You could wait a couple weeks, but I don't know about months. You want to know now what stage you're at so you know your options as far as treatment and all of that. If it is found in your lymph nodes you will be stage 3. They will also do a full body scan to see if it is in any distant organs. If it is in distant organs, then you'd be stage 4. These are important factors to know and I would not delay for long. 

                                    All the best,

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                                      Participant

                                        Thank you Jenn for the sound advice!  I'm being selfish…I want to be able to enjoy my summer…which is why I wanted to delay doing anything.  Sounds like I need to move forward as soon as possible.

                                        Stan

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                                        Participant

                                          Thank you Jenn for the sound advice!  I'm being selfish…I want to be able to enjoy my summer…which is why I wanted to delay doing anything.  Sounds like I need to move forward as soon as possible.

                                          Stan

                                          scpage
                                          Participant

                                            Thank you Jenn for the sound advice!  I'm being selfish…I want to be able to enjoy my summer…which is why I wanted to delay doing anything.  Sounds like I need to move forward as soon as possible.

                                            Stan

                                          jennunicorn
                                          Participant

                                            It is done in order to furthur stage you. Your primary tumor was of a thickness that indicated a SLNB is needed to see if the melanoma has metastisized to your lymph nodes. You could wait a couple weeks, but I don't know about months. You want to know now what stage you're at so you know your options as far as treatment and all of that. If it is found in your lymph nodes you will be stage 3. They will also do a full body scan to see if it is in any distant organs. If it is in distant organs, then you'd be stage 4. These are important factors to know and I would not delay for long. 

                                            All the best,

                                            Janner
                                            Participant

                                              The Sentinel Lymph Node biopsy has to be done BEFORE the wide excision.  If not, the results may be compromised.  The SNB checks drainage from the primary site to your lymph nodes and removing a large chunk of skin (as will be done with the wide local excision) can alter the drainage paths making the results inconclusive.  If the node is positive, it is positive.  But if it is negative, you won't know that it is negative because nothing has spread or they have sampled the wrong node.

                                              Timing.  You can read a study done on the timing issue here:

                                              http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/time-from-diagnostic-excision-biopsy/12100184.html

                                              Janner
                                              Participant

                                                The Sentinel Lymph Node biopsy has to be done BEFORE the wide excision.  If not, the results may be compromised.  The SNB checks drainage from the primary site to your lymph nodes and removing a large chunk of skin (as will be done with the wide local excision) can alter the drainage paths making the results inconclusive.  If the node is positive, it is positive.  But if it is negative, you won't know that it is negative because nothing has spread or they have sampled the wrong node.

                                                Timing.  You can read a study done on the timing issue here:

                                                http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/time-from-diagnostic-excision-biopsy/12100184.html

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                                                    This was great information….thank you for sharing it with me.

                                                    Stan

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                                                    Participant

                                                      This was great information….thank you for sharing it with me.

                                                      Stan

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                                                      Participant

                                                        This was great information….thank you for sharing it with me.

                                                        Stan

                                                        SamS
                                                        Participant

                                                          Interesting research, I had also wondered about that. My mole removal had been mid December, follow up late December when I was told I'd need LWE and SLNB. I was travelling to New York in early February to see my son sing at Carnegie hall so was determined to do that prior to any further surgery. Got everything done 21st feb, NED thankfully but have had just about every complication of recovery since then. Glad to say back on my feet and healing well now but it's been a strange ride.

                                                          All the best, this forum is great for support and information.

                                                          SamS
                                                          Participant

                                                            Interesting research, I had also wondered about that. My mole removal had been mid December, follow up late December when I was told I'd need LWE and SLNB. I was travelling to New York in early February to see my son sing at Carnegie hall so was determined to do that prior to any further surgery. Got everything done 21st feb, NED thankfully but have had just about every complication of recovery since then. Glad to say back on my feet and healing well now but it's been a strange ride.

                                                            All the best, this forum is great for support and information.

                                                            SamS
                                                            Participant

                                                              Interesting research, I had also wondered about that. My mole removal had been mid December, follow up late December when I was told I'd need LWE and SLNB. I was travelling to New York in early February to see my son sing at Carnegie hall so was determined to do that prior to any further surgery. Got everything done 21st feb, NED thankfully but have had just about every complication of recovery since then. Glad to say back on my feet and healing well now but it's been a strange ride.

                                                              All the best, this forum is great for support and information.

                                                            Janner
                                                            Participant

                                                              The Sentinel Lymph Node biopsy has to be done BEFORE the wide excision.  If not, the results may be compromised.  The SNB checks drainage from the primary site to your lymph nodes and removing a large chunk of skin (as will be done with the wide local excision) can alter the drainage paths making the results inconclusive.  If the node is positive, it is positive.  But if it is negative, you won't know that it is negative because nothing has spread or they have sampled the wrong node.

                                                              Timing.  You can read a study done on the timing issue here:

                                                              http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/time-from-diagnostic-excision-biopsy/12100184.html

                                                              youngann
                                                              Participant

                                                                I was just diagnosed by dermatolgist on 5/10/16 and will see the oncologist for the first time on 5/17/16. It looks like we're going to be going through this thing together so, if you'd like to "buddy up", maybe we can hold each others hands.

                                                                 

                                                                youngann
                                                                Participant

                                                                  I was just diagnosed by dermatolgist on 5/10/16 and will see the oncologist for the first time on 5/17/16. It looks like we're going to be going through this thing together so, if you'd like to "buddy up", maybe we can hold each others hands.

                                                                   

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                                                                      Absolutely!!! I would welcome the opportunity to share this journey with someone. I'm seeing the surgical oncologist for the first time on 5/26.  Please keep me posted on the results of your visit on Tuesday.  I have faith that we can get through this.

                                                                      Stan

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                                                                        Absolutely!!! I would welcome the opportunity to share this journey with someone. I'm seeing the surgical oncologist for the first time on 5/26.  Please keep me posted on the results of your visit on Tuesday.  I have faith that we can get through this.

                                                                        Stan

                                                                        youngann
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Great! Do you know if there's a general forum on here where we could start a thread for people to just keep in touch and support each other in their journey through this?

                                                                           

                                                                          Ann

                                                                          youngann
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            Great! Do you know if there's a general forum on here where we could start a thread for people to just keep in touch and support each other in their journey through this?

                                                                             

                                                                            Ann

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                                                                              I will do some research to see if we can create that separate blog.  In the meantime, if you want to communicate with me, please feel free to email me at. [email protected].  Good luck this week!!

                                                                              scpage
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                I will do some research to see if we can create that separate blog.  In the meantime, if you want to communicate with me, please feel free to email me at. [email protected].  Good luck this week!!

                                                                                scpage
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  I will do some research to see if we can create that separate blog.  In the meantime, if you want to communicate with me, please feel free to email me at. [email protected].  Good luck this week!!

                                                                                  youngann
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    Great! Do you know if there's a general forum on here where we could start a thread for people to just keep in touch and support each other in their journey through this?

                                                                                     

                                                                                    Ann

                                                                                    scpage
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      Absolutely!!! I would welcome the opportunity to share this journey with someone. I'm seeing the surgical oncologist for the first time on 5/26.  Please keep me posted on the results of your visit on Tuesday.  I have faith that we can get through this.

                                                                                      Stan

                                                                                    youngann
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      I was just diagnosed by dermatolgist on 5/10/16 and will see the oncologist for the first time on 5/17/16. It looks like we're going to be going through this thing together so, if you'd like to "buddy up", maybe we can hold each others hands.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Mamapegela
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        Hi Stan- We have the same dermatologist!  I am going to U of M tomorrow for a neck dissection on Tuesday.  I think you will love the Melanoma Clinic there.  They are terrific.  My melanoma was on my neck and of a thickness that did not indicate a SLNB was needed, just a WLE.  However, within 3 months I had a swollen node in my neck that was biopsied and positive.  So I would concur with the others here, go get your SLNB done so that you can have the information.  Hopefully it will be negative and you can carry on with your plans, but if it is positive you need to know so that you can take care of it.

                                                                                        All the best to you.

                                                                                        Mamapegela
                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                          Hi Stan- We have the same dermatologist!  I am going to U of M tomorrow for a neck dissection on Tuesday.  I think you will love the Melanoma Clinic there.  They are terrific.  My melanoma was on my neck and of a thickness that did not indicate a SLNB was needed, just a WLE.  However, within 3 months I had a swollen node in my neck that was biopsied and positive.  So I would concur with the others here, go get your SLNB done so that you can have the information.  Hopefully it will be negative and you can carry on with your plans, but if it is positive you need to know so that you can take care of it.

                                                                                          All the best to you.

                                                                                            scpage
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                                                                                              Thanks Peggy!  The advice seems to be unanimous, so I'll go forward with the SLNB, and accept whatever the results are as part of God's plan for my life.

                                                                                              scpage
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                                                                                                Thanks Peggy!  The advice seems to be unanimous, so I'll go forward with the SLNB, and accept whatever the results are as part of God's plan for my life.

                                                                                                scpage
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  Thanks Peggy!  The advice seems to be unanimous, so I'll go forward with the SLNB, and accept whatever the results are as part of God's plan for my life.

                                                                                                Mamapegela
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  Hi Stan- We have the same dermatologist!  I am going to U of M tomorrow for a neck dissection on Tuesday.  I think you will love the Melanoma Clinic there.  They are terrific.  My melanoma was on my neck and of a thickness that did not indicate a SLNB was needed, just a WLE.  However, within 3 months I had a swollen node in my neck that was biopsied and positive.  So I would concur with the others here, go get your SLNB done so that you can have the information.  Hopefully it will be negative and you can carry on with your plans, but if it is positive you need to know so that you can take care of it.

                                                                                                  All the best to you.

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