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Stage IIIb and now on Zelboraf

Forums General Melanoma Community Stage IIIb and now on Zelboraf

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    out4air
    Participant
      Any experiences, suggestions, etc anyone can give to us would be appreciated regarding your experience with taking Zelboraf 240mg. Started at 4 in am and 4 in pm but had bad reaction so now on 3 in am and 3 In pm with 10 mg of prednisone daily. On 3rd day and no problems yet.

      I gather this treatment is not a cure, just a drug to stop growth and wait for a cure to be invented, is that pretty much what we are looking at with this drug?

      Any experiences, suggestions, etc anyone can give to us would be appreciated regarding your experience with taking Zelboraf 240mg. Started at 4 in am and 4 in pm but had bad reaction so now on 3 in am and 3 In pm with 10 mg of prednisone daily. On 3rd day and no problems yet.

      I gather this treatment is not a cure, just a drug to stop growth and wait for a cure to be invented, is that pretty much what we are looking at with this drug?

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        jmmm
        Participant
          My husband has been on Zelboraf for 19 months….you’re right, it’s not curative, it is life extending. For some patients it works for a couple of months, for some it can work for much longer. It is typically used for stage 4 patients with lots of disease…it lowers the tumor load and can keep them alive, giving them time for immunotherapies to work, find a new trial drug, or to have a better quality of life. I didn’t know it was being used for stage 3 patients…do you have lots of disease? Anyway, side effects can be tough…extreme sun sensitivity, rash, lots of joint pain, some people can’t tolerate it very well. The side effects (minus the sun sensitivity) seem to fade over time (months, not weeks).
          jmmm
          Participant
            My husband has been on Zelboraf for 19 months….you’re right, it’s not curative, it is life extending. For some patients it works for a couple of months, for some it can work for much longer. It is typically used for stage 4 patients with lots of disease…it lowers the tumor load and can keep them alive, giving them time for immunotherapies to work, find a new trial drug, or to have a better quality of life. I didn’t know it was being used for stage 3 patients…do you have lots of disease? Anyway, side effects can be tough…extreme sun sensitivity, rash, lots of joint pain, some people can’t tolerate it very well. The side effects (minus the sun sensitivity) seem to fade over time (months, not weeks).
              out4air
              Participant
                My husband has had three surgeries including modified radical neck dissection removing 33 lymph nodes all being negative. However after surgery several more spots have appeared on his head (scalp). PET scan and MRI show no disease anywhere else in his body at present.

                So far reaction to Zelboraf after 3 days gave him fever, chills, slight rash on full dosage. He is now taking 240 mg 3 in am and 3 in pm with a 10 mg Prednisone pill daily and he has not had any reaction, however it has only been 5 days.

                He is being monitored at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla monthly and followed by our Dermatologist bi- monthly. Ct scans with be performed bi- monthly as well.

                Can we expect the spots on head to dissolve or just no further growth?

                out4air
                Participant
                  My husband has had three surgeries including modified radical neck dissection removing 33 lymph nodes all being negative. However after surgery several more spots have appeared on his head (scalp). PET scan and MRI show no disease anywhere else in his body at present.

                  So far reaction to Zelboraf after 3 days gave him fever, chills, slight rash on full dosage. He is now taking 240 mg 3 in am and 3 in pm with a 10 mg Prednisone pill daily and he has not had any reaction, however it has only been 5 days.

                  He is being monitored at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla monthly and followed by our Dermatologist bi- monthly. Ct scans with be performed bi- monthly as well.

                  Can we expect the spots on head to dissolve or just no further growth?

                  out4air
                  Participant
                    My husband has had three surgeries including modified radical neck dissection removing 33 lymph nodes all being negative. However after surgery several more spots have appeared on his head (scalp). PET scan and MRI show no disease anywhere else in his body at present.

                    So far reaction to Zelboraf after 3 days gave him fever, chills, slight rash on full dosage. He is now taking 240 mg 3 in am and 3 in pm with a 10 mg Prednisone pill daily and he has not had any reaction, however it has only been 5 days.

                    He is being monitored at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla monthly and followed by our Dermatologist bi- monthly. Ct scans with be performed bi- monthly as well.

                    Can we expect the spots on head to dissolve or just no further growth?

                    out4air
                    Participant
                      My husband has had three surgeries including modified radical neck dissection removing 33 lymph nodes all being negative. However after surgery several more spots have appeared on his head (scalp). PET scan and MRI show no disease anywhere else in his body at present.

                      So far reaction to Zelboraf after 3 days gave him fever, chills, slight rash on full dosage. He is now taking 240 mg 3 in am and 3 in pm with a 10 mg Prednisone pill daily and he has not had any reaction, however it has only been 5 days.

                      He is being monitored at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla monthly and followed by our Dermatologist bi- monthly. Ct scans with be performed bi- monthly as well.

                      Can we expect the spots on head to dissolve or just no further growth?

                      out4air
                      Participant
                        My husband has had three surgeries including modified radical neck dissection removing 33 lymph nodes all being negative. However after surgery several more spots have appeared on his head (scalp). PET scan and MRI show no disease anywhere else in his body at present.

                        So far reaction to Zelboraf after 3 days gave him fever, chills, slight rash on full dosage. He is now taking 240 mg 3 in am and 3 in pm with a 10 mg Prednisone pill daily and he has not had any reaction, however it has only been 5 days.

                        He is being monitored at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla monthly and followed by our Dermatologist bi- monthly. Ct scans with be performed bi- monthly as well.

                        Can we expect the spots on head to dissolve or just no further growth?

                        out4air
                        Participant
                          My husband has had three surgeries including modified radical neck dissection removing 33 lymph nodes all being negative. However after surgery several more spots have appeared on his head (scalp). PET scan and MRI show no disease anywhere else in his body at present.

                          So far reaction to Zelboraf after 3 days gave him fever, chills, slight rash on full dosage. He is now taking 240 mg 3 in am and 3 in pm with a 10 mg Prednisone pill daily and he has not had any reaction, however it has only been 5 days.

                          He is being monitored at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla monthly and followed by our Dermatologist bi- monthly. Ct scans with be performed bi- monthly as well.

                          Can we expect the spots on head to dissolve or just no further growth?

                        jmmm
                        Participant
                          My husband has been on Zelboraf for 19 months….you’re right, it’s not curative, it is life extending. For some patients it works for a couple of months, for some it can work for much longer. It is typically used for stage 4 patients with lots of disease…it lowers the tumor load and can keep them alive, giving them time for immunotherapies to work, find a new trial drug, or to have a better quality of life. I didn’t know it was being used for stage 3 patients…do you have lots of disease? Anyway, side effects can be tough…extreme sun sensitivity, rash, lots of joint pain, some people can’t tolerate it very well. The side effects (minus the sun sensitivity) seem to fade over time (months, not weeks).
                          Fen
                          Participant

                            I'm sure Moffitt is a great place, but reaching for Z at stage 3 seems a little drastic. There are other treatments that are typically used first – even for Stage 4 disease.   

                            Can you get a second opinion somewhere?  Make sure it is with a melanoma specialist – it is a unique kind of cancer.  The MIF has a list http://www.melanomainternational.org/resources/cancercenters2.html.   Moffitt is on the list but second opinions are always a good idea.

                            Fen

                            Fen
                            Participant

                              I'm sure Moffitt is a great place, but reaching for Z at stage 3 seems a little drastic. There are other treatments that are typically used first – even for Stage 4 disease.   

                              Can you get a second opinion somewhere?  Make sure it is with a melanoma specialist – it is a unique kind of cancer.  The MIF has a list http://www.melanomainternational.org/resources/cancercenters2.html.   Moffitt is on the list but second opinions are always a good idea.

                              Fen

                                NYKaren
                                Participant
                                  Hi there,
                                  Yes, z is used for stage III that has advanced or is not surgically removable. The literature clearly states that.
                                  My scalp mets all flattened and some disappeared entirely. Most on my face flattened but most (everywhere) retained pigment. The one in my ear greatly reduced.
                                  Hope this helps,
                                  Karen
                                  NYKaren
                                  Participant
                                    Hi there,
                                    Yes, z is used for stage III that has advanced or is not surgically removable. The literature clearly states that.
                                    My scalp mets all flattened and some disappeared entirely. Most on my face flattened but most (everywhere) retained pigment. The one in my ear greatly reduced.
                                    Hope this helps,
                                    Karen
                                    POW
                                    Participant

                                      I, too, am puzzled by the use of Zelboraf in this case (and in NYKaren's case, too). Even when Zelboraf works, the tumors tend to become resistant within 6-9 months. However, if your husband has a low tumor burden, why didn't your oncologist recommend an immune-based therapy like Yervoy or an anti-PD-1 trial? When they work, the effect seems to last a long time. 

                                      Just curious.

                                      POW
                                      Participant

                                        I, too, am puzzled by the use of Zelboraf in this case (and in NYKaren's case, too). Even when Zelboraf works, the tumors tend to become resistant within 6-9 months. However, if your husband has a low tumor burden, why didn't your oncologist recommend an immune-based therapy like Yervoy or an anti-PD-1 trial? When they work, the effect seems to last a long time. 

                                        Just curious.

                                        NYKaren
                                        Participant

                                          hmmm, let me count the reasons after being diagnosed with State IIIC Unresectable Melanoma, which just spreads and spreads and spreads,

                                          1)  of course, Wide, surgical excision & SNB followed by recurrance

                                          prompted switch to Sloan Kettering:

                                           2) radation, followed by recurrance,

                                           3)  Yervoy, followed by recurrance

                                           4) IL2, followed by recurrance,

                                            5)Yervoy Reinduction, followed by recurrance,

                                          All this winds me up with melanoma in my ear, for which 2 surgeons recommend removing the ear.

                                          It's not like I had a choice.  smiley

                                          NYKaren
                                          Participant

                                            hmmm, let me count the reasons after being diagnosed with State IIIC Unresectable Melanoma, which just spreads and spreads and spreads,

                                            1)  of course, Wide, surgical excision & SNB followed by recurrance

                                            prompted switch to Sloan Kettering:

                                             2) radation, followed by recurrance,

                                             3)  Yervoy, followed by recurrance

                                             4) IL2, followed by recurrance,

                                              5)Yervoy Reinduction, followed by recurrance,

                                            All this winds me up with melanoma in my ear, for which 2 surgeons recommend removing the ear.

                                            It's not like I had a choice.  smiley

                                            POW
                                            Participant

                                              Gee, Karen. I'm sorry for all you have been through! You are one tough lady! 

                                              However, I notice that you did have several other treatments, including immune treatments, before you went to Zelboraf. For what it's worth, that makes sense to me. What puzzles me is turning to Zelboraf first– before trying any immune therapies. 

                                              POW
                                              Participant

                                                Gee, Karen. I'm sorry for all you have been through! You are one tough lady! 

                                                However, I notice that you did have several other treatments, including immune treatments, before you went to Zelboraf. For what it's worth, that makes sense to me. What puzzles me is turning to Zelboraf first– before trying any immune therapies. 

                                                POW
                                                Participant

                                                  Gee, Karen. I'm sorry for all you have been through! You are one tough lady! 

                                                  However, I notice that you did have several other treatments, including immune treatments, before you went to Zelboraf. For what it's worth, that makes sense to me. What puzzles me is turning to Zelboraf first– before trying any immune therapies. 

                                                  POW
                                                  Participant

                                                    Gee, Karen. I'm sorry for all you have been through! You are one tough lady! 

                                                    However, I notice that you did have several other treatments, including immune treatments, before you went to Zelboraf. For what it's worth, that makes sense to me. What puzzles me is turning to Zelboraf first– before trying any immune therapies. 

                                                    POW
                                                    Participant

                                                      Gee, Karen. I'm sorry for all you have been through! You are one tough lady! 

                                                      However, I notice that you did have several other treatments, including immune treatments, before you went to Zelboraf. For what it's worth, that makes sense to me. What puzzles me is turning to Zelboraf first– before trying any immune therapies. 

                                                      NYKaren
                                                      Participant

                                                        POW, it's interesting that you say that…when I first got to Sloan I kept asking about my BRAF status…was always told it was negative.  Then I asked to be retrested & it was positive.  My docs believe that the test has become more sensitive, my status did not change! 

                                                        Had we known my status then, I know i would have been on the Zel after the first Yervoy treatment failed…most definately would have chosen it over Yervoy reinduction (which ended w/me having colitis).  Ideally, I would have opted for a PD-1 trial during most of this time, that is what I'm aiming for now, fingers crossed that this time it will work out.

                                                        While the criteria for Yervoy is "Stage IV or IIIC unresectable, Zel seems to be a little more flexible once someone's disease is metastatic (provided they're BRAF+, of course,) so that might be part of the reason.  I understand and appreciate your question; sometimes I wish I could close my eyes and wake up in two years, when, hopefully all this will be sorted out and many more of us are enjoying long-time NED

                                                        Karen

                                                        NYKaren
                                                        Participant

                                                          POW, it's interesting that you say that…when I first got to Sloan I kept asking about my BRAF status…was always told it was negative.  Then I asked to be retrested & it was positive.  My docs believe that the test has become more sensitive, my status did not change! 

                                                          Had we known my status then, I know i would have been on the Zel after the first Yervoy treatment failed…most definately would have chosen it over Yervoy reinduction (which ended w/me having colitis).  Ideally, I would have opted for a PD-1 trial during most of this time, that is what I'm aiming for now, fingers crossed that this time it will work out.

                                                          While the criteria for Yervoy is "Stage IV or IIIC unresectable, Zel seems to be a little more flexible once someone's disease is metastatic (provided they're BRAF+, of course,) so that might be part of the reason.  I understand and appreciate your question; sometimes I wish I could close my eyes and wake up in two years, when, hopefully all this will be sorted out and many more of us are enjoying long-time NED

                                                          Karen

                                                          NYKaren
                                                          Participant

                                                            POW, it's interesting that you say that…when I first got to Sloan I kept asking about my BRAF status…was always told it was negative.  Then I asked to be retrested & it was positive.  My docs believe that the test has become more sensitive, my status did not change! 

                                                            Had we known my status then, I know i would have been on the Zel after the first Yervoy treatment failed…most definately would have chosen it over Yervoy reinduction (which ended w/me having colitis).  Ideally, I would have opted for a PD-1 trial during most of this time, that is what I'm aiming for now, fingers crossed that this time it will work out.

                                                            While the criteria for Yervoy is "Stage IV or IIIC unresectable, Zel seems to be a little more flexible once someone's disease is metastatic (provided they're BRAF+, of course,) so that might be part of the reason.  I understand and appreciate your question; sometimes I wish I could close my eyes and wake up in two years, when, hopefully all this will be sorted out and many more of us are enjoying long-time NED

                                                            Karen

                                                            out4air
                                                            Participant
                                                              NYKaren – you have certainly been through so much. I just had no idea that this disease acted like this, I have learned a lot in a short amount of time. We feel “fortunate” I guess that his BRAF positive results came back so quickly and we didn’t have to go through other treatments that would not work. After two weeks the worse side effect is extreme sun sensitivity. So far we have not seen any additional disease pop up so we are praying that there won’t be.

                                                              I am praying daily for everyone with Melanoma and any type of cancer that there soon will be an effective cure……quickly.

                                                              Thanks for all your information it is very helpful to hear from others experiences, treatments, trials, etc.

                                                              out4air
                                                              Participant
                                                                NYKaren – you have certainly been through so much. I just had no idea that this disease acted like this, I have learned a lot in a short amount of time. We feel “fortunate” I guess that his BRAF positive results came back so quickly and we didn’t have to go through other treatments that would not work. After two weeks the worse side effect is extreme sun sensitivity. So far we have not seen any additional disease pop up so we are praying that there won’t be.

                                                                I am praying daily for everyone with Melanoma and any type of cancer that there soon will be an effective cure……quickly.

                                                                Thanks for all your information it is very helpful to hear from others experiences, treatments, trials, etc.

                                                                out4air
                                                                Participant
                                                                  NYKaren – you have certainly been through so much. I just had no idea that this disease acted like this, I have learned a lot in a short amount of time. We feel “fortunate” I guess that his BRAF positive results came back so quickly and we didn’t have to go through other treatments that would not work. After two weeks the worse side effect is extreme sun sensitivity. So far we have not seen any additional disease pop up so we are praying that there won’t be.

                                                                  I am praying daily for everyone with Melanoma and any type of cancer that there soon will be an effective cure……quickly.

                                                                  Thanks for all your information it is very helpful to hear from others experiences, treatments, trials, etc.

                                                                  POW
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Gee, Karen. I'm sorry for all you have been through! You are one tough lady! 

                                                                    However, I notice that you did have several other treatments, including immune treatments, before you went to Zelboraf. For what it's worth, that makes sense to me. What puzzles me is turning to Zelboraf first– before trying any immune therapies. 

                                                                    Thandster
                                                                    Participant
                                                                      What did your recurrences look like? I’m 3a and feel kind of clueless as to what I’m watching for.
                                                                      Thank you
                                                                      Thandster
                                                                      Thandster
                                                                      Participant
                                                                        What did your recurrences look like? I’m 3a and feel kind of clueless as to what I’m watching for.
                                                                        Thank you
                                                                        Thandster
                                                                        Thandster
                                                                        Participant
                                                                          What did your recurrences look like? I’m 3a and feel kind of clueless as to what I’m watching for.
                                                                          Thank you
                                                                          Thandster
                                                                          out4air
                                                                          Participant
                                                                            Recurrences looked at first like a dark freckle. Very small but grew quickly. After that my husband started getting many additional ones on various parts of his scalp. Because of the number of diseased spots that he has and multiple places they are considered not to be surgically removable AND he tested BRAF positive so he went immediately on Zelboraf.
                                                                            out4air
                                                                            Participant
                                                                              Recurrences looked at first like a dark freckle. Very small but grew quickly. After that my husband started getting many additional ones on various parts of his scalp. Because of the number of diseased spots that he has and multiple places they are considered not to be surgically removable AND he tested BRAF positive so he went immediately on Zelboraf.
                                                                              out4air
                                                                              Participant
                                                                                Recurrences looked at first like a dark freckle. Very small but grew quickly. After that my husband started getting many additional ones on various parts of his scalp. Because of the number of diseased spots that he has and multiple places they are considered not to be surgically removable AND he tested BRAF positive so he went immediately on Zelboraf.
                                                                                NYKaren
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  hmmm, let me count the reasons after being diagnosed with State IIIC Unresectable Melanoma, which just spreads and spreads and spreads,

                                                                                  1)  of course, Wide, surgical excision & SNB followed by recurrance

                                                                                  prompted switch to Sloan Kettering:

                                                                                   2) radation, followed by recurrance,

                                                                                   3)  Yervoy, followed by recurrance

                                                                                   4) IL2, followed by recurrance,

                                                                                    5)Yervoy Reinduction, followed by recurrance,

                                                                                  All this winds me up with melanoma in my ear, for which 2 surgeons recommend removing the ear.

                                                                                  It's not like I had a choice.  smiley

                                                                                  POW
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    I, too, am puzzled by the use of Zelboraf in this case (and in NYKaren's case, too). Even when Zelboraf works, the tumors tend to become resistant within 6-9 months. However, if your husband has a low tumor burden, why didn't your oncologist recommend an immune-based therapy like Yervoy or an anti-PD-1 trial? When they work, the effect seems to last a long time. 

                                                                                    Just curious.

                                                                                    NYKaren
                                                                                    Participant
                                                                                      Hi there,
                                                                                      Yes, z is used for stage III that has advanced or is not surgically removable. The literature clearly states that.
                                                                                      My scalp mets all flattened and some disappeared entirely. Most on my face flattened but most (everywhere) retained pigment. The one in my ear greatly reduced.
                                                                                      Hope this helps,
                                                                                      Karen
                                                                                    Fen
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      I'm sure Moffitt is a great place, but reaching for Z at stage 3 seems a little drastic. There are other treatments that are typically used first – even for Stage 4 disease.   

                                                                                      Can you get a second opinion somewhere?  Make sure it is with a melanoma specialist – it is a unique kind of cancer.  The MIF has a list http://www.melanomainternational.org/resources/cancercenters2.html.   Moffitt is on the list but second opinions are always a good idea.

                                                                                      Fen

                                                                                      mark1101
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        Gosh, Zelboraf for Stage III is something I haven't heard about.  News to me.  Sorry you have all of this going in your life.  It's no fun whatever therapy you are under.  Is this a clinical trial for Z?  I had heard the latest thinking for Stage III was PD1 and/or ipilimumab.  Hang in there.

                                                                                        mark1101
                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                          Gosh, Zelboraf for Stage III is something I haven't heard about.  News to me.  Sorry you have all of this going in your life.  It's no fun whatever therapy you are under.  Is this a clinical trial for Z?  I had heard the latest thinking for Stage III was PD1 and/or ipilimumab.  Hang in there.

                                                                                          mark1101
                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                            Gosh, Zelboraf for Stage III is something I haven't heard about.  News to me.  Sorry you have all of this going in your life.  It's no fun whatever therapy you are under.  Is this a clinical trial for Z?  I had heard the latest thinking for Stage III was PD1 and/or ipilimumab.  Hang in there.

                                                                                              NYKaren
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                Mark, since their approvals, Yervoy and Zelbarof have been for Stages IIIC unresectable and IV.  I believe that using Zel for other Stage III's is relatively new, but as I said above, there appears to be a bit more wriggle-room in the prescribing criteria.

                                                                                                Best to all!   karen

                                                                                                NYKaren
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  Mark, since their approvals, Yervoy and Zelbarof have been for Stages IIIC unresectable and IV.  I believe that using Zel for other Stage III's is relatively new, but as I said above, there appears to be a bit more wriggle-room in the prescribing criteria.

                                                                                                  Best to all!   karen

                                                                                                  NYKaren
                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                    Mark, since their approvals, Yervoy and Zelbarof have been for Stages IIIC unresectable and IV.  I believe that using Zel for other Stage III's is relatively new, but as I said above, there appears to be a bit more wriggle-room in the prescribing criteria.

                                                                                                    Best to all!   karen

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