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- January 13, 2016 at 7:29 pm
Had my appointment with my doctor yesterday about what to do next after this last huge surgery. The options that were given to me are consistent with what most others here with stage 3 are getting. Dr Luke’s opinion was watch and wait, ipi 10mg or trial, his personal opinion was watch and wait. He again stated the reason as ipi has shown about the same statistical numbers if you do it now or later. He did say some docs may get pd-1 off label but he doesn’t agree with doing it now. The reason is that no trial data is in for adjuvant setting. He stated that if we give you pembro and the cancer comes back is it because it didn’t work or because we used it the wrong way? There may not be enough cancer present for the drug to do it’s job and then docs and insurance may be hesitant to give it to me again. I would also lose clinical trial options because of prior treatment. I am very high risk probably about 80% of relapse. The braf drugs cleared almost all cancer from the 1 positive node but did show microscopic cells still. He said that is the paradox with those drugs they work like magic but almost 100% of the time don’t kill all the cancer. I have had a bunch of other nodes that were positive when i had my original superficial groin dissection that have all been removed by surgery. The other 6 on this surgery were clear. The one node was full of macrophages that had replaced the cancer. They dont know why but it is something to do with regression they think. So the hope is that was All of it and it has been cut out. They are going to try and laser dissect the cells that were still viable and see if they can learn anything about why those cells showed resistance. I did ask about staying on braf drugs and he didn’t think it was a good idea. I didn’t show resistance and we might need them later so he doesn’t think we should burn them. Median time to full response is about 2 months and I was on them for 4. I am going to see if my local doctor will check into pembro and see if insurance will give me that option. I also asked about ipi with leukine as there was a trial that showed that combo to be a little better response rate wise and less side effects. He agreed it would lessen side effects but most people think leukine may actually suppress your immune system and it was to small of a trial to be relevant. Last thing will touch on is he said they are writing a paper on the bacteria in your gut. He said they have evidence that people on the east coast have a higher rate of colitis than people in the midwest because of the bacteria created in different environments now if that’s not crazy! I need a scan soon since its been 3.5 months but I’m going to take a week or 2 and think about things before i make a decision if a could find a trial i think I’d look hard at that option but almost all are placebo or interferon. I have now had braf drugs so that will make a adjuvant trial that much harder to find. Long post sorry. Like always ask me questions i like feedback.
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- January 13, 2016 at 7:41 pm
Dang this is Jamie didn’t try to post anon sorry. -
- January 13, 2016 at 8:11 pm
Hi Jamie-
I had a feeling this was you when I read the first sentence….
Hmmm…… lots of information, how are you going to decide? I knew from your prior posts and dr. lukes webinar that he wasn't a fan of adjuvant IPI at 10mg/kg….
He also makes an interesting point about PD1 not having any real data in the adjuvant setting. The part i was a bit taken aback by is the IPI with Leukine….I wasnt aware that there is some thought about Leukine suppressing your immune sysyme…that scares me since that is what my Onc is recommending, on its own.
The part about east coast folks having higher rates of colitis was interesting too!
I wish I had some words of wisdom…..I am going to Penn on tuesday for another opinion, and will certainly share anything more i learn….I know several memebers her are patients of Lynn Schucter.
I know you are just processing all this now, but will be interested to hear what decision you make.
Thinking of you!
jenny
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- January 13, 2016 at 8:11 pm
Hi Jamie-
I had a feeling this was you when I read the first sentence….
Hmmm…… lots of information, how are you going to decide? I knew from your prior posts and dr. lukes webinar that he wasn't a fan of adjuvant IPI at 10mg/kg….
He also makes an interesting point about PD1 not having any real data in the adjuvant setting. The part i was a bit taken aback by is the IPI with Leukine….I wasnt aware that there is some thought about Leukine suppressing your immune sysyme…that scares me since that is what my Onc is recommending, on its own.
The part about east coast folks having higher rates of colitis was interesting too!
I wish I had some words of wisdom…..I am going to Penn on tuesday for another opinion, and will certainly share anything more i learn….I know several memebers her are patients of Lynn Schucter.
I know you are just processing all this now, but will be interested to hear what decision you make.
Thinking of you!
jenny
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- January 13, 2016 at 8:11 pm
Hi Jamie-
I had a feeling this was you when I read the first sentence….
Hmmm…… lots of information, how are you going to decide? I knew from your prior posts and dr. lukes webinar that he wasn't a fan of adjuvant IPI at 10mg/kg….
He also makes an interesting point about PD1 not having any real data in the adjuvant setting. The part i was a bit taken aback by is the IPI with Leukine….I wasnt aware that there is some thought about Leukine suppressing your immune sysyme…that scares me since that is what my Onc is recommending, on its own.
The part about east coast folks having higher rates of colitis was interesting too!
I wish I had some words of wisdom…..I am going to Penn on tuesday for another opinion, and will certainly share anything more i learn….I know several memebers her are patients of Lynn Schucter.
I know you are just processing all this now, but will be interested to hear what decision you make.
Thinking of you!
jenny
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- January 13, 2016 at 9:11 pm
I just wanted to add a that there is some discussion about the relation of guy bacteria and response to immunotherapy.
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- January 13, 2016 at 9:11 pm
I just wanted to add a that there is some discussion about the relation of guy bacteria and response to immunotherapy.
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- January 13, 2016 at 9:11 pm
I just wanted to add a that there is some discussion about the relation of guy bacteria and response to immunotherapy.
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- January 14, 2016 at 3:33 pm
My husband was Stage IV and started a clinical trial in 2011 with Ipi at 10mg/kg and GM-CSF (which is a leukine) and he has been NED since 2012 (just over 3 years now). He had mets in liver, lungs, and an unresectable pushing on the cervical spine up at C1-C2 and 4 sub q's on the same area as unresectable.
You can read more in his profile if interested.
Judy (loving wife of Gene Stage IV and now NED for over 3 years)
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- January 14, 2016 at 3:33 pm
My husband was Stage IV and started a clinical trial in 2011 with Ipi at 10mg/kg and GM-CSF (which is a leukine) and he has been NED since 2012 (just over 3 years now). He had mets in liver, lungs, and an unresectable pushing on the cervical spine up at C1-C2 and 4 sub q's on the same area as unresectable.
You can read more in his profile if interested.
Judy (loving wife of Gene Stage IV and now NED for over 3 years)
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- January 14, 2016 at 3:33 pm
My husband was Stage IV and started a clinical trial in 2011 with Ipi at 10mg/kg and GM-CSF (which is a leukine) and he has been NED since 2012 (just over 3 years now). He had mets in liver, lungs, and an unresectable pushing on the cervical spine up at C1-C2 and 4 sub q's on the same area as unresectable.
You can read more in his profile if interested.
Judy (loving wife of Gene Stage IV and now NED for over 3 years)
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