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Treatment and NCI, has anyone gone thru this?

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    kris herrington
    Participant

      Hi,

       

      I am stage 4 and was told to go to the NCI for thier treatment with Steven Rosenberg. Has anyone been thru this? What was it like and did you have sucess?

       

      Thanks!

      Kris

      Hi,

       

      I am stage 4 and was told to go to the NCI for thier treatment with Steven Rosenberg. Has anyone been thru this? What was it like and did you have sucess?

       

      Thanks!

      Kris

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        lhaley
        Participant

          Their are different treatments at NCI so you will have to be more specific.  Right now Val is there and participating in the TIL trial. 

          Linda

          lhaley
          Participant

            Their are different treatments at NCI so you will have to be more specific.  Right now Val is there and participating in the TIL trial. 

            Linda

              kris herrington
              Participant

                Hi Linda,

                 

                Yes this is the treatment I was speaking of. How is Val doing? What part of the treatment is she in right now? Trying to find out what I can expect.

                Thanks!

                kris herrington
                Participant

                  Hi Linda,

                   

                  Yes this is the treatment I was speaking of. How is Val doing? What part of the treatment is she in right now? Trying to find out what I can expect.

                  Thanks!

                  lhaley
                  Participant

                    I haven't heard from Val for about a week.  She was starting the chemo and then was having the 3 days of radiation. Should be on the stem cells and IL2 part now.  I'm hoping she's doing well. 

                    Linda

                    lhaley
                    Participant

                      I haven't heard from Val for about a week.  She was starting the chemo and then was having the 3 days of radiation. Should be on the stem cells and IL2 part now.  I'm hoping she's doing well. 

                      Linda

                      kris herrington
                      Participant

                        Thanks Linda. I hope she is doing well also. I will be going on tuesday for my consult so I am praying that they will accept me. I've done the IL- and its not fun. But its all certainly worth it if it works. Is Val stage 4?   

                        kris herrington
                        Participant

                          Thanks Linda. I hope she is doing well also. I will be going on tuesday for my consult so I am praying that they will accept me. I've done the IL- and its not fun. But its all certainly worth it if it works. Is Val stage 4?   

                        jag
                        Participant

                          The more important question in my mind, is how many people who post here are actually long term survivors of treatments of any NIH study.  Rosenberg seems to be stuck in a certain mindset and fails to believe that his treatments may not actually work, over the years, I haven't seen that many patients go there and have a long term survival from the genetically re-engineered immune system(If that is the treatment you are wondering about).  

                          If there are survivors of this therapy, please post.  

                          If it were me, I would research the therapy they were proposing, ask them what the survival rates were over a 5 year period, and then ask them if their were any patients that went through the same therapy that would be willing to talk to you.

                          My treatments ranking order (from highest to lowest)

                          1. Surgical removal if at all possible.

                          2. Adjuntive self made vaccine.(Oncovex)

                          3. Systemic therapies in order of effectiveness

                             a.  Ipilimumab*+

                             b.  Interleukin 2*

                             c.  Dicarbazine/Temodar*

                             d.  Biochemotherapy

                             e.  BRAF drugs+

                             f. miscellaneous chemotherapies

                           *  have been shown to have long term remission-Ipilimumab

                          +  have been shown to cross blood/brain barrier. 

                          Be careful just going by "what people said" without looking at the hard facts and finding cases of actual people who have survived 

                          jag
                          Participant

                            The more important question in my mind, is how many people who post here are actually long term survivors of treatments of any NIH study.  Rosenberg seems to be stuck in a certain mindset and fails to believe that his treatments may not actually work, over the years, I haven't seen that many patients go there and have a long term survival from the genetically re-engineered immune system(If that is the treatment you are wondering about).  

                            If there are survivors of this therapy, please post.  

                            If it were me, I would research the therapy they were proposing, ask them what the survival rates were over a 5 year period, and then ask them if their were any patients that went through the same therapy that would be willing to talk to you.

                            My treatments ranking order (from highest to lowest)

                            1. Surgical removal if at all possible.

                            2. Adjuntive self made vaccine.(Oncovex)

                            3. Systemic therapies in order of effectiveness

                               a.  Ipilimumab*+

                               b.  Interleukin 2*

                               c.  Dicarbazine/Temodar*

                               d.  Biochemotherapy

                               e.  BRAF drugs+

                               f. miscellaneous chemotherapies

                             *  have been shown to have long term remission-Ipilimumab

                            +  have been shown to cross blood/brain barrier. 

                            Be careful just going by "what people said" without looking at the hard facts and finding cases of actual people who have survived 

                              kris herrington
                              Participant

                                Thanks, I was hoping to hear from some survivors.

                                 

                                I have tied the following –

                                Surgery, not an otpion now

                                BRAF- 3 months, didn't work

                                Oncovex, did work on the one spot but has now spread

                                IL-2 – didn't work

                                Radiation

                                 

                                I am holding out on Ipi as it is only 10% sucessful and is now available to all and the doc said to go find other trials first as if i take the ipi it will iliminate me from other trials. 

                                My second oncologist told me to get my but to the NCI and dont pass go.

                                 

                                I will ask more questions when i am there on tuesday.

                                 

                                kris herrington
                                Participant

                                  Thanks, I was hoping to hear from some survivors.

                                   

                                  I have tied the following –

                                  Surgery, not an otpion now

                                  BRAF- 3 months, didn't work

                                  Oncovex, did work on the one spot but has now spread

                                  IL-2 – didn't work

                                  Radiation

                                   

                                  I am holding out on Ipi as it is only 10% sucessful and is now available to all and the doc said to go find other trials first as if i take the ipi it will iliminate me from other trials. 

                                  My second oncologist told me to get my but to the NCI and dont pass go.

                                   

                                  I will ask more questions when i am there on tuesday.

                                   

                                  kylez
                                  Participant

                                    Kris,

                                    One of the hot trials right now is anti-PD1 (MDX-1106). It's similar to Ipilimumab in some ways (immune treatment, different target). IPI currently disqualifies you for all the MDX-1106 trials at least for the moment. Milder side effect profile than anti-PD1.

                                    Here's a recent webinar on anti-PD1.

                                    I'm on IPI right now. One of my friends is on one of the MDX-1106 trials.

                                    – Kyle

                                    kylez
                                    Participant

                                      Kris,

                                      One of the hot trials right now is anti-PD1 (MDX-1106). It's similar to Ipilimumab in some ways (immune treatment, different target). IPI currently disqualifies you for all the MDX-1106 trials at least for the moment. Milder side effect profile than anti-PD1.

                                      Here's a recent webinar on anti-PD1.

                                      I'm on IPI right now. One of my friends is on one of the MDX-1106 trials.

                                      – Kyle

                                      kylez
                                      Participant

                                        Correction… milder side effects than IPI.

                                        kylez
                                        Participant

                                          Correction… milder side effects than IPI.

                                          kris herrington
                                          Participant

                                            Hi Kyle,

                                            Thanks for the info, yes  I am aware of the MDX-1106. The three places running the trials now have waiting lists. I have an appt at Sloan on 9-26. I hate that they out you out so far for appts.

                                            Even if i go out there, there are not quarentees that I will get on the trial. This is actually and ipi/MDX combo trial.

                                            How is the Ipi working for you? How long have you been on it? How are the side effects? Do you know if it is working? How is your friend doing on the MDX-1106?

                                            Have you heard any stories of people doing the NCI trials with Rosenberg? Have you considered participating in this trial?

                                            Not really sure what direction I should persue… really struggling to find the right answer.

                                            Kris

                                             

                                            kris herrington
                                            Participant

                                              Hi Kyle,

                                              Thanks for the info, yes  I am aware of the MDX-1106. The three places running the trials now have waiting lists. I have an appt at Sloan on 9-26. I hate that they out you out so far for appts.

                                              Even if i go out there, there are not quarentees that I will get on the trial. This is actually and ipi/MDX combo trial.

                                              How is the Ipi working for you? How long have you been on it? How are the side effects? Do you know if it is working? How is your friend doing on the MDX-1106?

                                              Have you heard any stories of people doing the NCI trials with Rosenberg? Have you considered participating in this trial?

                                              Not really sure what direction I should persue… really struggling to find the right answer.

                                              Kris

                                               

                                              boot2aboot
                                              Participant

                                                excellent advice…just suberb…oncology is an ART and every researcher works with a different technique…

                                                boot2aboot
                                                Participant

                                                  excellent advice…just suberb…oncology is an ART and every researcher works with a different technique…

                                                kylez
                                                Participant

                                                  Kris,

                                                  Sorry to hear the PD1 trials are waiting listed… I guess that confirms they're "hot". I'm glad for my friend that he got in, I hope you don't have to wait too long either.

                                                  TIL/ACT is still at the top of my wish-list for trial treatments (along with anti-PD1, some kind of combination MEK inhibitor trial, and maybe E7080), per talks with my oncologist. I just have difficulty qualifying for any of these trials right now. I'm interested in TIL/ACT at NCI, Moffitt or MDA, all of which do it, with MDA probably at the top of my list.

                                                  I don't know yet how the IPI's working for me. My first scan will be in a couple of weeks, after I get infusion #4 next week (so that would be one standard course of 4 infusions). As far as 'classic' IPI side effects, I've had next to nothing (endorcrine, liver, skin, GI, etc.) Otherwise, It's also hard to whether any other symptoms are coming from IPI or something else. But so far it's been very tolerable.

                                                  Bob Heffernan has gotten the TIL treatment with good results — if you can get to this link, try https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=230996402523&topic=13872

                                                  – Kyle

                                                  kylez
                                                  Participant

                                                    Kris,

                                                    Sorry to hear the PD1 trials are waiting listed… I guess that confirms they're "hot". I'm glad for my friend that he got in, I hope you don't have to wait too long either.

                                                    TIL/ACT is still at the top of my wish-list for trial treatments (along with anti-PD1, some kind of combination MEK inhibitor trial, and maybe E7080), per talks with my oncologist. I just have difficulty qualifying for any of these trials right now. I'm interested in TIL/ACT at NCI, Moffitt or MDA, all of which do it, with MDA probably at the top of my list.

                                                    I don't know yet how the IPI's working for me. My first scan will be in a couple of weeks, after I get infusion #4 next week (so that would be one standard course of 4 infusions). As far as 'classic' IPI side effects, I've had next to nothing (endorcrine, liver, skin, GI, etc.) Otherwise, It's also hard to whether any other symptoms are coming from IPI or something else. But so far it's been very tolerable.

                                                    Bob Heffernan has gotten the TIL treatment with good results — if you can get to this link, try https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=230996402523&topic=13872

                                                    – Kyle

                                                      boot2aboot
                                                      Participant

                                                        anti PD 1 trial at Moffitt wants it's recruits to have HLA allele A-2…this sucks as it is a very good study and i can't qualify (i am HLA A-1 and A-11)…just never can catch a break…sucks to be me

                                                        boots

                                                        boot2aboot
                                                        Participant

                                                          anti PD 1 trial at Moffitt wants it's recruits to have HLA allele A-2…this sucks as it is a very good study and i can't qualify (i am HLA A-1 and A-11)…just never can catch a break…sucks to be me

                                                          boots

                                                        wgalinat
                                                        Participant
                                                          I’m Warren Galinat. Many here have read my story of stage four and what and where you are about to get into. If you google my name you will see my short story called White Brows. It’s my journey with NIH and Dr Rosenberg. I have helped and referred many people since to the same clinical trial at NIH. I completed the trial, the same one that Val is currently in the middle of, way back in October of 2006… So close to five years out. Would that be of any comfort to you ? I sure hope so, and wish you lots of luck. Should you have any questions directly, you and anybody else who reads this, feel free to email me…[email protected]
                                                          wgalinat
                                                          Participant
                                                            I’m Warren Galinat. Many here have read my story of stage four and what and where you are about to get into. If you google my name you will see my short story called White Brows. It’s my journey with NIH and Dr Rosenberg. I have helped and referred many people since to the same clinical trial at NIH. I completed the trial, the same one that Val is currently in the middle of, way back in October of 2006… So close to five years out. Would that be of any comfort to you ? I sure hope so, and wish you lots of luck. Should you have any questions directly, you and anybody else who reads this, feel free to email me…[email protected]
                                                              mombase
                                                              Participant

                                                                Thank you for sharing your story, Warren. I think I read it a couple of months ago when I was first diagnosed Stage IV, but my brain was a little fuzzy, so I read it again! I too had a melanoma right in the middle of my back that was excised along with sentinal glands from both armpits. The "all clear" was declared at that time (2008). In 2010, I had a brain tumor removed that was not cancerous. My 1 year follow up scan changed my life. Apparently, in one year's time, rogue melanoma cells found my lungs and I have approximately 15 mets, and then traveled to my brain and created a nice sized melanoma tumor. The tumor was able to be removed, and I declined adjuvant whole brain radiation at the time. I did find out that I am BRAF + and that I will be able to start on Zelboraf in a couple of weeks. I feel really good right now and I am pretty strong since I just retired from the military in 2008. The thing that freaks me out is the randomness of who makes it and who doesn't make it. Even the doctors are baffled. I am sure God knows, so I realize that I just need to put one foot in front of the other and let it go! Since I am in the Northern California VA system, which includes awesome military surgeons and surgeons from UC Davis, as well, I really feel very comfortable and confident.

                                                                Again, thank you so much for sharing your inspirational story!

                                                                Cristy, Stage IV

                                                                mombase
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Thank you for sharing your story, Warren. I think I read it a couple of months ago when I was first diagnosed Stage IV, but my brain was a little fuzzy, so I read it again! I too had a melanoma right in the middle of my back that was excised along with sentinal glands from both armpits. The "all clear" was declared at that time (2008). In 2010, I had a brain tumor removed that was not cancerous. My 1 year follow up scan changed my life. Apparently, in one year's time, rogue melanoma cells found my lungs and I have approximately 15 mets, and then traveled to my brain and created a nice sized melanoma tumor. The tumor was able to be removed, and I declined adjuvant whole brain radiation at the time. I did find out that I am BRAF + and that I will be able to start on Zelboraf in a couple of weeks. I feel really good right now and I am pretty strong since I just retired from the military in 2008. The thing that freaks me out is the randomness of who makes it and who doesn't make it. Even the doctors are baffled. I am sure God knows, so I realize that I just need to put one foot in front of the other and let it go! Since I am in the Northern California VA system, which includes awesome military surgeons and surgeons from UC Davis, as well, I really feel very comfortable and confident.

                                                                  Again, thank you so much for sharing your inspirational story!

                                                                  Cristy, Stage IV

                                                                  wgalinat
                                                                  Participant
                                                                    You are welcome. I wish you the best of luck. Warren
                                                                    wgalinat
                                                                    Participant
                                                                      You are welcome. I wish you the best of luck. Warren
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